Captain P

Won't this affect all models horizontally regardless of PTS?

BMW and Merc were able to find new suppliers, also the article is difficult to comprehend, the one supplier that is on the record saying they had a flooding highlighted they do not supply Porsche from the affected factory. Which confuses me because why did they then declare a force majeure in writing?

Bognar67

Correct. This is how Europe (Continental) works. ADM is prohibited by Porsche, and by the law in some countries.
Getting on the 'List' is not easy as well, but not impossible. If you are on the list you pay MSRP or less if you have relatively massive history.
Porsche started to watch heir very carefully who get a chance to buy. They want to keep GT cars on tracks or roads, point of view totally different to US.
If you have Track experience history and want to buy GT car, management of the Experience Team gives an 'offer' to the local dealership putting up on the list significantly.

M&Abanker4life

This is the way it should be globally. The Porsche track experience program / masters experience should be a pre requisite to buy a GTRS car. Weed out the c&c / you tube flipper crowd and keep the car in the hands of enthusiasts with the appropriate driver training to handle and care for the car.

Shogunade

Thats one way to go belly up.

M&Abanker4life

Yeah - all those profits from a several thousand car production run of the gt3rs are truly what must be keeping Porsche from going bankrupt.

Shogunade

You're talking numbers. I'm talking cachet.

3-Pedals

Europe is mostly a socialist environment (particularly Germany). America is polar opposite, heart of capitalism. Money talks and we have people here with (lots) money. The wealth levels and buying power are not comparable. So there is no way PAG can employ the same tactic here.

Bognar67

AFAIK Ferrari did it over there too... or something similar.
It is not a question of capitalism/socialism but enthusiasm/greediness.
More cars for enthusiast less for greedy people.

usctrojanGT3

Seems to work in Canada too and Ferrari got their US dealers in line, just saying.

Nick

You can’t be serious. Aren’t all Porsche’s designed for track experience?

I get the flippers concern but to require a buyer to come into a Porsche store wearing a badge indicating he/she is a track rat so sell me a car is nonsensical.

ipse dixit

This might work for cars that are not road legal, like a Cup car or GT4 Clubsport.

For anything else, it would Economic 101 Idiocy.

M&Abanker4life

Sounds like I hit a nerve lol. Carry on

pitt911

be careful of what you wish for. The C&C crowd is what keep the demand high and thus depreciation low
if you skip them , then are you willing to take a significant hit on your GT3 that you track , just saying

Captain P

Maybe they can meet in the middle, first batch goes to hardcore fans with history and rest goes to whoever comes first and so on. Some sort of tiering where Porsche hand picks a few and opens up the rest to dealers. That is exactly what Ferrari does.

ipse dixit

The first batch should go to the C&C crowd.

Then everyone else can fight for the crumbs that are left over.

Let's be honest, the driver of GT car values, and resale values, are hoi polloi who populate C&C, not the track rats.