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Old 07-12-2024 | 12:08 PM
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I have a couple allocations on hand that I can sell for 110k over MSRP total. From what I'm hearing it seems PTS is pretty much full at this point.
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Old 07-15-2024 | 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by kmmurray256
In the same boat... Anyone know forsure how this PTS approval process works?

anyone get past v110 lately?
Old 07-16-2024 | 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by 997C2Houston
anyone get past v110 lately?
Nope, still v110 - dealer reached out to PCNA on my behalf and they told him that they have an unprecedented number of PTS request and they are not sure they can fulfill all of them. PCNA recommended they also collect a non PTS backup to submit if you are unlucky to not be approved for one. For those who get approved, your build locks immediately and you can't change it after the fact, so we just have to wait and see.
Mine is a September build, so i guess i will find out sooner than later.

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Old 07-16-2024 | 01:42 PM
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Mine is still at v110 waiting for approval. I had to submit an alternate color as a backup. It's an October build. I'm guessing there are a lot of PTS orders for this car because the selection of standard colors is very limited.

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Old 07-16-2024 | 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by subshooter
Mine is still at v110 waiting for approval. I had to submit an alternate color as a backup. It's an October build. I'm guessing there are a lot of PTS orders for this car because the selection of standard colors is very limited.
I would have loved to get Shark blue as a standard color.
Old 07-16-2024 | 03:49 PM
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One would think if PTS was that much of a challenge for Porsche, they would add more colors to select from. They created this monster by eliminating colors, and the flip side is, they're making more money by selling PTS. Weird.
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Old 07-16-2024 | 04:30 PM
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I am also waiting for a PTS approval. I have heard from 2 different sources that fit finish/quality on PTS RS cars isnt that great. Could this be due to low volume aspect of PTS combined with a lot of the RS parts are hand sprayed?
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I keep writing this but will try again. One of the primary reasons, if not THE primary reason, for fewer colors and difficulty processing a lot of PTS orders is the amount of painted parts which come from other suppliers to Porsche. Be it the CF parts in higher volume on the 992, the magnesium roof on the 991.1 RS, or any other, it is very challenging to match paint across many different materials (aluminum, CF, steel, etc) and many different suppliers. Do the permutations for just the base offered colors then add the dozens of PTS colors and it is a logistics nightmare, especially when you add in problems with the base manufacturing like they have now with the CF vendors. I think they should do a Ford and for the next RS day you can have it in any color as long as it's black and dispense with this.

And just about everybody here would still buy it.
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Old 07-16-2024 | 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by signes
I keep writing this but will try again. One of the primary reasons, if not THE primary reason, for fewer colors and difficulty processing a lot of PTS orders is the amount of painted parts which come from other suppliers to Porsche. Be it the CF parts in higher volume on the 992, the magnesium roof on the 991.1 RS, or any other, it is very challenging to match paint across many different materials (aluminum, CF, steel, etc) and many different suppliers. Do the permutations for just the base offered colors then add the dozens of PTS colors and it is a logistics nightmare, especially when you add in problems with the base manufacturing like they have now with the CF vendors. I think they should do a Ford and for the next RS day you can have it in any color as long as it's black and dispense with this.

And just about everybody here would still buy it.
Ok, but why eliminate all the exciting colors and keep all the grays? Python Green, Shark Blue, Racing yellow are all gone, now left a grayscale and red. Also I highly doubt parts come painted from suppliers, do you have any reputable data on this? The reason I say that is when you look at Porsche Parts Catalog, all painted parts come only primed. I have never seen after sale parts come painted to dealers. Are you saying suppliers supply different parts for after sales service (primed) than for manufacturing (painted)?
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Originally Posted by Captain P
Nope, still v110 - dealer reached out to PCNA on my behalf and they told him that they have an unprecedented number of PTS request and they are not sure they can fulfill all of them. PCNA recommended they also collect a non PTS backup to submit if you are unlucky to not be approved for one. For those who get approved, your build locks immediately and you can't change it after the fact, so we just have to wait and see.
Mine is a September build, so i guess i will find out sooner than later.
How long has it been sitting in V110? if build date is Sept, your freeze date should be.. yesterday? usually its 45 days before build. Keep us posted once you hear back on your PTS approval. I believe it's a two level approval, first by PCNA then by Zuffenhausen
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Old 07-17-2024 | 12:20 AM
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Old 07-17-2024 | 06:17 AM
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Originally Posted by signes
I keep writing this but will try again. One of the primary reasons, if not THE primary reason, for fewer colors and difficulty processing a lot of PTS orders is the amount of painted parts which come from other suppliers to Porsche. Be it the CF parts in higher volume on the 992, the magnesium roof on the 991.1 RS, or any other, it is very challenging to match paint across many different materials (aluminum, CF, steel, etc) and many different suppliers. Do the permutations for just the base offered colors then add the dozens of PTS colors and it is a logistics nightmare, especially when you add in problems with the base manufacturing like they have now with the CF vendors. I think they should do a Ford and for the next RS day you can have it in any color as long as it's black and dispense with this.

And just about everybody here would still buy it.
CF panel painted is the same CF panel painted be it guards red or gt silver or mint green. Whats the issue with it being PTS and hand spray painted? Color is a color at the end of the day unless you are saying CF panels have specific paint thickness and application requirements depending on what specific color.

I am honestly getting tired of all foxtrot tango requirements of this PTS and CXX song and dance. Its way too much work and recent examples prove that PTS doesnt really add more value to the car’s market value.

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Old 07-17-2024 | 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by 3-Pedals
I am honestly getting tired of all foxtrot tango requirements of this PTS and CXX song and dance. Its way too much work and recent examples prove that PTS doesnt really add more value to the car’s market value.
If you're doing PTS for the potential added market value then maybe don't request it and let someone else who actually wants the color for the color have a shot at the allocation
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Old 07-17-2024 | 11:18 AM
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Could the reason for limited colors be that Porsche designed and built the RS to be primarily a track car, and the color is not a performance attribute?
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Old 07-17-2024 | 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by PTS
If you're doing PTS for the potential added market value then maybe don't request it and let someone else who actually wants the color for the color have a shot at the allocation
Absolutely I dont for added market value but given the amount of delays, headaches, uncertainties, missed driving days/seasons, knowing PTS held its value better somewhat helped deal with the negatives of the process. This has been the case before but now with 992, just way too many PTS cars, delays got much worse, and it doesnt feel as special (as it used to) because its more widely accessible and less exclusive. It basically lost the amount of appeal it once had say 5-7 years ago. It still has appeal but just not as much. Its increase in price is icing on the cake. It used to cost 1/3 of the current cost to do PTS in an RS.


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