Originally Posted by ohsix

I'm on the waitlist for a GT3t at Porsche South Austin. They're currently "asking" $100k over sticker for a GT3t allocation. The truth is the GM asks each salesman how much their GT3t customers are willing to pay over MSRP and the salesmen reach out to their customers to see who will pay the most and the high bidder gets to order a car.

My salesman at Porsche South Austin texted me last month and said they have an allocation for me. I offered significantly less than $100K over sticker, but still well over sticker. The sales manager emailed me that he had a long list of buyers at $100k over. I told him I don't want to waste his time and I won't pay $100k over. He never responded, so I guess he had a higher bidder. My salesman at Porsche South Austin texted yesterday and said they have a GT3t allocation for me if I'm still interested. They're still asking $100k over sticker. I upped my offer by $10k from last month, but still well short of $100k over. In both offers, I've offered to wire the full purchase price same day. I thought sitting on my money for several months would give them some incentive to take my offer, but no luck.

I did agree on price for a new GT3t with another dealer outside of my home state. After we agreed on price (which included ADM), I learned that they were selling me a car that had already been ordered instead of the ablility to order a car to my spec. The car was too far off from what I want, so I passed. After agreeing on price, but before learning that I was negotiating for an already ordered car and not an allocation, the GM called me to discuss payment. In order to "hide the ADM from Porsche" he wanted me to buy a used Cayenne which he would then buy back from me in 30 days for the amount I paid minus the ADM. I told him I'm happy to wire money or write a check for the ADM, and he can call the ADM whatever he wants, but I'm not buying another vehicle to hide the ADM. This does make me curious how other dealers are hiding the ADM from Porsche. Anyone care to share how their dealer got paid for ADM?

The interesting thing is both Porsche dealers I have tried to order a GT3t from tell me that if I'll pay their ADM this time, I'll be able to order GT cars at sticker in the future. I have no reason to believe they won't sell their future GT car allocations to the highest bidder in the future, just like they are today.

Originally Posted by ohsix

I'm on the waitlist for a GT3t at Porsche South Austin. They're currently "asking" $100k over sticker for a GT3t allocation. The truth is the GM asks each salesman how much their GT3t customers are willing to pay over MSRP and the salesmen reach out to their customers to see who will pay the most and the high bidder gets to order a car.

My salesman at Porsche South Austin texted me last month and said they have an allocation for me. I offered significantly less than $100K over sticker, but still well over sticker. The sales manager emailed me that he had a long list of buyers at $100k over. I told him I don't want to waste his time and I won't pay $100k over. He never responded, so I guess he had a higher bidder. My salesman at Porsche South Austin texted yesterday and said they have a GT3t allocation for me if I'm still interested. They're still asking $100k over sticker. I upped my offer by $10k from last month, but still well short of $100k over. In both offers, I've offered to wire the full purchase price same day. I thought sitting on my money for several months would give them some incentive to take my offer, but no luck.

I did agree on price for a new GT3t with another dealer outside of my home state. After we agreed on price (which included ADM), I learned that they were selling me a car that had already been ordered instead of the ablility to order a car to my spec. The car was too far off from what I want, so I passed. After agreeing on price, but before learning that I was negotiating for an already ordered car and not an allocation, the GM called me to discuss payment. In order to "hide the ADM from Porsche" he wanted me to buy a used Cayenne which he would then buy back from me in 30 days for the amount I paid minus the ADM. I told him I'm happy to wire money or write a check for the ADM, and he can call the ADM whatever he wants, but I'm not buying another vehicle to hide the ADM. This does make me curious how other dealers are hiding the ADM from Porsche. Anyone care to share how their dealer got paid for ADM?

The interesting thing is both Porsche dealers I have tried to order a GT3t from tell me that if I'll pay their ADM this time, I'll be able to order GT cars at sticker in the future. I have no reason to believe they won't sell their future GT car allocations to the highest bidder in the future, just like they are today.

Originally Posted by usctrojanGT3

Oh man, that Austin stealer is no better than CA stealers with their stupid asking price. I think you already know, trust stealers as far as you can throw them. Look for a used car that has a spec that you like best. Good luck on your search.

Originally Posted by AlexCeres

yeah, msrp is going up almost $20k.

Originally Posted by shrimp money

I’d contact an Ohio dealer. I can put you in contact with two sales guys for two different dealers here. We can only get $50k in our market. If you’ll pay over that, I’m sure they can get one for you.


When I was at my dealer for service last Saturday, he said the incoming GT3T was ordered with a $50k adm.

Originally Posted by Engro

That is about as shady as they come most dealer just ask for ADM straight up no pretenses. There is zero chance the same shady dealer will give you allocation at sticker.
Porsche is not stupid and the price increase should eat into dealer ADMs.

Originally Posted by chance6

I'm not sure how Ohio is on an island...if folks can get a new Touring with $50k ADM, prices are for sure coming down.

Originally Posted by Manifold

Let's not forget that some of price increase of cars over the past 3 years is simply due to inflation, and is not simply because persistent demand is enabling manufacturers to raise prices and profit margins. From that standpoint, a physical asset like a car is somewhat of a hedge against inflation (unlike cash), but in the long run almost all of these cars will be depreciating assets if you actually drive them rather than store them in a time capsule.

Originally Posted by Randy M

I cannot remember a time where anyone could walk into a Porsche dealer and order a GT3 for sticker without having an existing relationship, long time client etc. It does.... not.... happen, and will not happen.

Originally Posted by mcsmcs1

Your memory is poor then; it happened routinely during the 991.1 cycle of 2014-2016 and before that generation it was the norm. The fear of the last of natural aspiration primarily and internal combustion secondarily drove a whole new audience of speculators and "collectors" to this market segment which resulted in the ADM surge.

Originally Posted by Randy M

Correction, a desirable GT3. I kid but you're full of crap. You couldn't even get a Shelby, B302 back then for sticker. I've been around the block a few times pal.