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Old 04-03-2023, 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Manifold
With Porsche being in a mode to significantly raise prices on new cars, I think that ADMs won’t necessarily be propped up, but prices on used Porsches will.
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Old 04-03-2023, 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by jplaro
My dealer is asking 75k for wing car (with existing relationship).
They are asking for $75k ADM with an existing relationship? Hmmm, sounds like you need to break up and get out of this toxic relationship.
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Old 04-03-2023, 01:06 PM
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Demo 992 GT3 RS with 3k km (~1864 miles) for sale in Belgium for 500k ($544k USD) euros. About 185k euros (~$201k USD) over MSRP.

https://drmotors.be/en/detail/?porsc...c-demo-1369289
Old 04-03-2023, 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Manifold
With Porsche being in a mode to significantly raise prices on new cars, I think that ADMs won’t necessarily be propped up, but prices on used Porsches will.
ADMs are not going to decline any time soon.
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Old 04-03-2023, 05:07 PM
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Are dealers still getting GT3 allocations? I've read conflicting info on GT3 allocations, some say they are done -- but they still seem to be out there?

I really want a GT3, I'm on the list for GT3 and GT3RS, so I'm just curious.
Old 04-03-2023, 06:01 PM
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Yes, there are still allocations to some dealers.
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Old 04-03-2023, 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by usctrojanGT3
They are asking for $75k ADM with an existing relationship? Hmmm, sounds like you need to break up and get out of this toxic relationship.
They are alright. Not an extensive relationship - only did 3 transactions with them so far.

I'm in a very wealthy area where people buy these cars on a whim and don't think twice about offering the highest ADM possible to get the car in the next 3 months. All dealers in the area charge excessive ADMs.
Old 04-03-2023, 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by jplaro
They are alright. Not an extensive relationship - only did 3 transactions with them so far.

I'm in a very wealthy area where people buy these cars on a whim and don't think twice about offering the highest ADM possible to get the car in the next 3 months. All dealers in the area charge excessive ADMs.
Sounds like the stealers in SoCal.
Old 04-03-2023, 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted by usctrojanGT3
Sounds like the stealers in SoCal.
South Florida. Same deal here.
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Old 04-04-2023, 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by ipse dixit
ADMs are not going to decline any time soon.
But they are going down...
Old 04-04-2023, 07:04 PM
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Even if it were going down, there’s a buyer at each level.

$75k
$60k
$50k
$40k

and so on.

Each level eats up an allocation.


Eventually they’ll get to zero, but by then it’s because of economy, and you’ll be scared money.
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Old 04-05-2023, 11:35 PM
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The question is - where are we at with the typical / average ADMs.

Feels like its about 50k to 75k now.
Old 04-06-2023, 12:21 AM
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Originally Posted by jplaro
The question is - where are we at with the typical / average ADMs.

Feels like its about 50k to 75k now.
my SA had a winged for 50 and touring for 60 -- both gone same day
he also had a 4RS landed for 50 -- it's now pending

if the dealers price them 'right' (which seems to be 50-ish at the moment) they'll move. if they ask 75-125 (i got a text about a landed PTS 4RS for 125 this week lol), they'll sit...and might just order for stock and hope someone buys it once it lands...risk they're willing to take

high MY24 price increase kinda screws things up

3RS is still too new, so pricing is crazy high and will be for some time. once they start to land and we all cool off a bit, they'll be in high 5-figure ADM, which still makes the car super expensive because MSRP / options cost so much

this is how i see the market right now
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Old 04-06-2023, 01:57 AM
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Friend of mine is a GM at a dealership in another state and reached out to me a few weeks ago offering me a touring allocation (no PTS) with a maximum 50K ADM (could be less if market conditions deteriorate in the next 3-4 months when the car arrives). Told me I don't have to put a deposit up and to submit my build, and no hard feelings if I don't wind up taking it when it arrives. The day after my build locked the price increase was announced. Received confirmation that my allocation is not subject to the price increase so now I am tempted to take the car, especially if the ADM goes down. However, I really want PTS and now have to decide if it is worth sacrificing PTS (no guarantee I will get a PTS allocation at a later date) for a sure thing. Is a 50K ADM based on the old MSRP a good deal for a non PTS touring in the current environment?
Old 04-06-2023, 02:22 AM
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Originally Posted by JWMIA
Friend of mine is a GM at a dealership in another state and reached out to me a few weeks ago offering me a touring allocation (no PTS) with a maximum 50K ADM (could be less if market conditions deteriorate in the next 3-4 months when the car arrives). Told me I don't have to put a deposit up and to submit my build, and no hard feelings if I don't wind up taking it when it arrives. The day after my build locked the price increase was announced. Received confirmation that my allocation is not subject to the price increase so now I am tempted to take the car, especially if the ADM goes down. However, I really want PTS and now have to decide if it is worth sacrificing PTS (no guarantee I will get a PTS allocation at a later date) for a sure thing. Is a 50K ADM based on the old MSRP a good deal for a non PTS touring in the current environment?
Take the car, spec it how you like, and enjoy. GT3 production is winding down and a bird in hand…
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