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Color me confused. If your 2012.5 MSRP was $122k and your 2013 had "$50k more in options".. exactly what options do you have on your '13 CS2 to make it cost $172k? I didnt think an S car could spec'd that high. Figured they topped out around $150k. Off the top of my head Im guessing Powerkit & Burmester?
I have never seen a more loaded S, period. I have seen one or two 4S's with higher original MSRPs but never an S.
Here's the story from the selling dealer: They had a customer order one like this and the dealership liked the build so much that they ordered four more identical to that one (with one exception - one of the four had yellow stitching). They sold all of them locally - mine was one of the four that the dealer ordered. The original owner traded it in late last summer on a '16 GT3. Now, why on earth would someone load up a 991S deep into 911 Turbo pricing? In '13, the 991 Turbo was a year away and the GTS wasn't out yet, either so if you wanted the hottest new 991, this was the ticket.
Wow! It would be easier to list the options not on the car. What a great build.
Thanks! I think the only other way the original owner could have pumped it up even further was with PTS or some custom leather/stitching. Crazy build.
It is missing two things that my previous 991S had, though - folding side mirrors and front/rear parking sensors. I think that I can live without those, though...
Funny thing, I wasn't really looking to get another 991S so quickly. I was looking around at '14 CPO 991 Turbo S's, watching their prices dropping slowly, and hunting for a Sapphire Blue one (very, very, very hard to find, although not impossible), with the eye of possibly trying to get one in another year or two. I was particularly intrigued by one specific option that I really wanted in my next 911 but was very hard to find on CPO 991.1's, especially S or 4S's.
So I came across this particular 991S on this thread that had that special and rare option that I wanted and it caught my eye. Then I started looking closer at the build sheet...never really thought about getting PCCB's. PowerKit, well that would be nice to have, too. Burmester, hmmm, would be a nice upgrade over my Bose. Full leather? Carbon fiber? AEROKIT CUP SPOILER (love this one!). So I thought, this is a very special car. Let me take a shot at getting it.
The rest of the story I put in another thread but needless to say, I am very happy that I found this one. It's a keeper!
Thanks! I think the only other way the original owner could have pumped it up even further was with PTS or some custom leather/stitching. Crazy build.... The rest of the story I put in another thread but needless to say, I am very happy that I found this one. It's a keeper!
Is it possible that there is a mixup here, in that third-party dealers (obviously) cannot give refreshed CPO with 2 new years, but that if the car is still inside a previous (porsche dealer's) CPO then it is not invalidated?
Is it possible that there is a mixup here, in that third-party dealers (obviously) cannot give refreshed CPO with 2 new years, but that if the car is still inside a previous (porsche dealer's) CPO then it is not invalidated?
Here's what I KNOW!! From a dealer. Just asked again today!
Whenever a new car comes into a dealer, and the owners name DOESN'T match what's in the Porsche system, dealers are supposed to run a CarFax.
If anything shows the car was in a non Porsche dealer inventory, they're supposed to FLAG it.
Do some of these get though? Sure. If a MAJOR warranty issue arises, is there a chance the car history will be further looked into? You can probably bet on it.
If a CPO car passes through a non Porsche dealer, technically the CPO is voided.
It does pass on with private owner sales though.
Same thing I've said in the past and have shared on here.
Here's what I KNOW!! From a dealer. Just asked again today!
Whenever a new car comes into a dealer, and the owners name DOESN'T match what's in the Porsche system, dealers are supposed to run a CarFax.
If anything shows the car was in a non Porsche dealer inventory, they're supposed to FLAG it.
Do some of these get though? Sure. If a MAJOR warranty issue arises, is there a chance the car history will be further looked into? You can probably bet on it.
If a CPO car passes through a non Porsche dealer, technically the CPO is voided.
It does pass on with private owner sales though.
Same thing I've said in the past and have shared on here.
Yes, I am curious about the "flag". It could still mean a variety of things short of instant, unconditional invalidation of warranty.
To give an example, the car could have a history that it was sold by a non-Porsche dealer, but all service records are from an actual Porsche dealer, possibly including the selling dealer driving the car over. That could mean that the "flag" invalidates CPO when other repairs were performed while a different dealer got the profits from a sale.
I did not see the specific wording of the warranty voiding. Which might not be public.
Do we know whether "A Penske Dealership" has any benefit to us? Is the national Penske organization something that you can use to exercise pressure on a local dealer in case of trouble?
I am not sure I approve of this specific use of PTS. At least it doesn't have the two-tone interior with two shades of brown. I love Porsche's two-tone interiors, but I often perceive mixing different browns as color clashing.
[ETA: what it's Macadamia? Cool. That is a great color]
BTW, how come we practically never see the Interior Color to Sample? It was available for a while, wasn't it?
When carmax says "No Haggle price" is that true? Or can you still make offer?
Is it possible to get a lower price? Any experience?
In my experience, at Carmax they really don't even have a mechanism to put in an offer other than asking... Truly no haggle. They will occasionally change a price of a vehicle on their own after it's been in their system long enough.
Different from many other "one price" dealerships which pretend they won't negotiate, the salespeople will say it's no haggle, but there is often still a used car sales manager that will in fact haggle..
02-01-2017, 09:10 AM
Thanks for the due diligence!
