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I did a quick Vroom appraisal after posting the question, and they actually added $1500 value for the PDK, so obviously their algorithm isn't current or close to being valid currently.
An odd question about Monroney Windows stickers so I will ask here...
My current car is a 2015 991.1 C2 GTS PDK.. My original Monroney Sticker says base price $114,200
My new-to-me (Inbound) 2016 991.1 C2 GTS Manual's Monroney sticker (not original but from "monroneylabels.com") says a Base price of $109,425. All options and final MSRP matches Vin analytics.
Was there a price reduction between 2015-2016?
Was base price different between PDK and Manual cars? (my PDK GTS starts $4775 higher and then has an additional $4840 added for PDK)
Hello all! Been on HFS sale for longer than I can remember. Great information and humor at times you may need it but a knowledgeable group. Ok here goes
We sold (were asked by the dealer) to sell our GT4 and Macan GTS in early 2021. Both were low mile and pampered. We agreed and they picked them up and sold them quickly. We have a GT4RS on order but we all know that will be late year. We just miss having a car to enjoy in these East TN, GA and NC Mountains. I never knew it would take this long but none of us could have known. Weird times. I like all of you look around the internet if not every day every few days. A few weeks ago I found a car that checks a lot of boxes. I have done a lot and I mean a lot of research even talking to previous owners and original selling dealers. Learned that Carfax can be a guide but not 100% accurate as far as owner history but its a 3 owner car.
We have signed the paperwork and literally are down to pushing the button to wire today (tomorrow/working on transport) but I wanted to push this out on HFS to get a quick check. I can get it delivered to our dealer and was approved for extended warranty for 2 years. Has had PPF since day 1 and I'll get it removed paint correct and re wrap car etc. All majors up to date, new tires.
At 84k what do you all see? I (we) know the market is high and retail on a 992 C2S is a lot higher as well. At 16,000 miles seems like we could enjoy it for many years to come?
I do not find their business practices to be solid and would absolutely avoid them but certainly up you. Although nothing illegal, they lied about their intentions which gives them zero credibility.
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Nice car, great options and miles but in my opinion about a 8-10k premium. I know the market is insane but gees, how many people are not buying this brand because of the inflated pricing. My advice is if you want it, buy it. Nothing better than a 911 to travel the awesome roads in western NC and Tn. Congrats!
Nice car, great options and miles but in my opinion about a 8-10k premium. I know the market is insane but gees, how many people are not buying this brand because of the inflated pricing. My advice is if you want it, buy it. Nothing better than a 911 to travel the awesome roads in western NC and Tn. Congrats!
My thought exactly. I asked what would this car have sold for in June of 2019? Most people (all very experienced buyers/sellers) said $75-$77.5 until summer to fall of 2020 then it went to 80 then 82.5 so good assessment.
I do not find their business practices to be solid and would absolutely avoid them but certainly up you. Although nothing illegal, they lied about their intentions which gives them zero credibility.
Interesting and Thanks for sharing. At quick glance looks like everything traditional of the times. Like real estate your viewing a property and 5 people outside to buy and what happens? The real estate person has an investor and they buy the property and flip it. Unetical? Not really but I can see how it can be viewed that way?
Are the cars they are selling...shady? Or simply how they are obtaining them the question?
Interesting and Thanks for sharing. At quick glance looks like everything traditional of the times. Like real estate your viewing a property and 5 people outside to buy and what happens? The real estate person has an investor and they buy the property and flip it. Unetical? Not really but I can see how it can be viewed that way?
Are the cars they are selling...shady? Or simply how they are obtaining them the question?
Exactly, not sure. I was not in a terrible rush and could have held out. If I had to do it all over again, I would have canceled the transaction with RAC Performance and told them to pound sand. The last kicker was when it was picked up by an unenclosed trailer and taken away - that was a sad sight but deal was done.
I do not find their business practices to be solid and would absolutely avoid them but certainly up you. Although nothing illegal, they lied about their intentions which gives them zero credibility.
Interesting. RAC Performance bought my 997 C4S with 6k miles and told me it was for the owner's personal use/collection. A week later it was up for sale for $10k more than they paid me for it. I don't really care since itw as an easy transaction and they can do whatever they want once it's in their possession, but it's odd that this seems to be a recurring theme with them. Why not just tell me they're going to resell it? They're a dealer, it's what I would have expected had they made me the exact same offer anyway.
Interesting. RAC Performance bought my 997 C4S with 6k miles and told me it was for the owner's personal use/collection. A week later it was up for sale for $10k more than they paid me for it. I don't really care since itw as an easy transaction and they can do whatever they want once it's in their possession, but it's odd that this seems to be a recurring theme with them. Why not just tell me they're going to resell it? They're a dealer, it's what I would have expected had they made me the exact same offer anyway.
Won't rehash what I wrote, but you've experienced the same result I did as have others.
Since there is another thread for these situations and this place, I do not want to derail this one. However, RAC Performance, in my opinion has little room to defend itself when this has occurred repeatedly. In fact, they tried to conjure up some poor excuses here in response to my calling them out: https://www.google.com/search?q=goog...hrome&ie=UTF-8
The point is, some are fine with this, just like trading in a car. However, to promote yourself as a collector or with some interest in the actual unit you are buying and then turn around and do something completely different in a short amount of time clearly demonstrates you are lying. Period.
Won't rehash what I wrote, but you've experienced the same result I did as have others.
Since there is another thread for these situations and this place, I do not want to derail this one. However, RAC Performance, in my opinion has little room to defend itself when this has occurred repeatedly. In fact, they tried to conjure up some poor excuses here in response to my calling them out: https://www.google.com/search?q=goog...hrome&ie=UTF-8
The point is, some are fine with this, just like trading in a car. However, to promote yourself as a collector or with some interest in the actual unit you are buying and then turn around and do something completely different in a short amount of time clearly demonstrates you are lying. Period.
I agree, very odd. Sounds a little fishy/legal grey area, there must be a reason they are doing it. Not my problem so I don't really care, but it would definitely make me question buying anything from them. From a selling perspective it was the easiest transaction I've done. They asked for some documents, wired the money same day, picked up the car a day later.
How much did they want for the c2s MT?
From what I'm seeing, a decent 991.1 C2S MT is around 100, and a GT3 MT is 190+?
I probably should have worded that differently.
what I mean is that I don’t feel that their car is worth 33k more than my car. I’ve made my offer (27 difference) and I doubt they’ll accept it.
They are asking $99.5 for the car, which seems high given the car has so few options, but in this market someone will probably scoop it up.
My comment about the GT3 was based on a similar year (2014ish), not a newer manual trans.
01-25-2022, 10:36 PM
