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Old 06-17-2021, 08:23 AM
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People from California aren't flocking to Florida much, mostly Az and Texas. And pewople have been coming here from NY forever, and while taxes are a factor the main draw is the weather. In fact South Florida is often called the Sixth Borough. I hate that because I am from Philly and we hate NY.

As for "dumb *** ideas" its funny, they often forget that you have world class museums, theater, music and restaurants in NYC that you do not get here in Florida. To each his own I guess.
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Old 06-17-2021, 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by mjposner

As for "dumb *** ideas" its funny, they often forget that you have world class museums, theater, music and restaurants in NYC that you do not get here in Florida. To each his own I guess.
I’m from Philly and lived in San Diego for 8 years. I would never leave the south after moving here. And I don’t think any rational person is really missing out on some of the museums in NYC like MOMA where they do things like create a plexiglas box and call it “art” - you need to be a special kind of special to like that stuff and those people can stay in NYC.

Edit: I am even an art major (architecture) and cannot for the life of me understand the appeal to this modern nonsense.

Modern theatre is almost as bad. And I don’t know where in Florida you are going to restaurants but many of the top NYC chefs have moved to Florida after the covid nuttiness by NYC dictatorship….

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Old 06-17-2021, 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by cutlass476
Trust me, people wouldn’t flocking here from California and New York if it weren’t for the economics. I just wish they wouldn’t bring the same dumb *** ideas that ruined their states with them.
that's my fear here in AZ too and it's already happening to an extent in the metro area.

leave authoritarian place; move to place with relative freedom; start voting for all the same moronic stuff that made the original place unlivable. idiots.

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Old 06-17-2021, 11:54 AM
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this thread is getting sadder by the day.. entertaining nonetheless.. like an accident on the side of the road
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Old 06-17-2021, 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Gary JR
Get a job, a better job or another job. Should have bought AMZN, Jr.

LOl @ thinking you are avoiding taxes by leasing..
Maybe that's why you are rolling in a base carrera convertible?
Oh but I bet its paid off.. paid in cash fully? going to keep it 10 years!

This jr. is doing just fine... rolling in a loaded 911 S without a job, a better job, or another job
My third 911...

Originally Posted by flsupraguy
LOL jokes on you. Perhaps he's a business owner and his company leases the vehicle with a very very favorable buyout at the end of the term..............
Nailed it.... Better yet I'm in the "business"
I can lease vehicles significant discount rather than purchasing and avoid the full "new" sales taxes (use tax is wonderful - hence pay on use vs. paying tax on purchase all up front.)
It is great for flipping cars every three-four years etc.
Also, I have the option to purchase at a extremely favorable buyout.

The 911 is purchased because its a toy, and if I put it into the wall its on me.. can walk away from it, fix it etc.

Back on topic, expect 911 values continue to rise throughout the year like real-estate supply and demand in the economy.
This is all backed by rising inflation.


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Old 06-17-2021, 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by mjposner
People from California aren't flocking to Florida much, mostly Az and Texas. And pewople have been coming here from NY forever, and while taxes are a factor the main draw is the weather. In fact South Florida is often called the Sixth Borough. I hate that because I am from Philly and we hate NY.

As for "dumb *** ideas" its funny, they often forget that you have world class museums, theater, music and restaurants in NYC that you do not get here in Florida. To each his own I guess.
Colorado is getting smoked with west coast transplants. So much so the Colorado folks are looking to leave.

Old 06-17-2021, 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by desmotesta
this thread is getting sadder by the day.. entertaining nonetheless.. like an accident on the side of the road
Hopefully they will let it ride and not go mega Reichlist on it..........
Old 06-17-2021, 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by flsupraguy
Hopefully they will let it ride and not go mega Reichlist on it..........
I'm certain that the Gestapo is qualifying the last 5 pages for deletion as we speak.
In other news I finally received confirmation from my insurance company that the agreed value of $115k is in full effect.
It's fun to watch prices rise but not for the underlying reasons (chip shortages and inflation). To that I'd add the strong MSRPs of new 911s, which further helps lift prices of preowned inventory.
As other have mused, we can sell high but will also have to cough up more for a replacement and I'm hard pressed to identify other cars that excite me at this point...
Old 06-17-2021, 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by jfischet
that's my fear hear in AZ too and it's already happening to an extent in the metro area.

leave authoritarian place; move to place with relative freedom; start voting for all the same moronic stuff that made the original place unlivable. idiots.
It’s happened in my city of Atlanta. Looking at options as to where to move.
Old 06-17-2021, 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Bemo
I'm certain that the Gestapo is qualifying the last 5 pages for deletion as we speak.
In other news I finally received confirmation from my insurance company that the agreed value of $115k is in full effect.
It's fun to watch prices rise but not for the underlying reasons (chip shortages and inflation). To that I'd add the strong MSRPs of new 911s, which further helps lift prices of preowned inventory.
As other have mused, we can sell high but will also have to cough up more for a replacement and I'm hard pressed to identify other cars that excite me at this point...
Pretty much there isn't another car out there that I would want more than the one that I have right now.
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Old 06-17-2021, 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by AlterZgo
This is not accurate. In California, you basically pay tax on the car once whether you buy or lease it. When you lease a car, assuming you don't put a down payment (which you should never do on a lease), you are only taxed on the monthly lease payments. If your car get totaled after 1 month, you have only paid sales tax on that one single monthly payment. If you have a 36 month lease and you pay your lease payments each month, you are taxed only for the 36 monthly payments. Say after 36 months, the residual is 60%. You have basically paid sales tax on the 40% of the car that you paid for via the 36 lease payments. If you turn the lease back in, you NEVER pay the remaining sales tax on the 60% residual.

On the other hand, if after 36 months, you decide to buy out the lease, you pay sales tax on the residual buy out, i.e. you pay Porsche 60% for the buyout and California taxes you for the 60% buy out. In the end, you've only paid sales tax one time on the car (sales tax paid monthly on the 40% of the car that was paid via the 36 month lease and sales tax on the 60% residual when you bought out the lease). This is exactly the same amount of sales tax you would incur if you purchased the car, except leassors are smart because they did not have to pony up the entire sales tax on 100% of the car up front or finance a loan that included 100% of the sales tax which could never be recouped when you sell the car.
That's what I was trying to say..nicely put!
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Old 06-17-2021, 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by desmotesta
this thread is getting sadder by the day.. entertaining nonetheless.. like an accident on the side of the road
Where is @Bob Z. when you need him.

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Old 06-17-2021, 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Martin S.
That's what I was trying to say..nicely put!
Still a very difficult concept for the naive snakeeys of the world. lol
Old 06-17-2021, 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by jfischet
that's my fear hear in AZ too and it's already happening to an extent in the metro area.

leave authoritarian place; move to place with relative freedom; start voting for all the same moronic stuff that made the original place unlivable. idiots.
I operate in Downtown Phoenix and the surrounding areas (Arcadia/Biltmore). There's been a massive shift in demographic. Tons of people from CA, MI, IL.

Sort of good for the local economy, but the quality of human is questionable at best... Have you heard of Melrose district (LGBT)? It's blowing up. I don't have a problem with that group, but the entitlement spewing out of them is insane... Yes, I deal with people... Also, that light rail they keep expanding AKA the Bum Express isn't a good thing... 100's of millions for transporting homeless, crackheads, and criminals but our water supply is full of carcinogens. What a shame.
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Old 06-17-2021, 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Al.Fresco
Where is @Bob Z. when you need him.

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