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Old 06-15-2021 | 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Tangerine
Ouch that is painful. How do they calculate the value of the car though?
NADA publications for the most part.
Old 06-15-2021 | 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by NA2
holy crap. that sounds absolutely batsh!t crazy. so if you own a $200k car you are paying $8k every year????? I thought we had it bad in NY with 8.5% tax upfront.....but nothing annual.
I’ll add that the amount generally goes down every year as your car depreciates. I don’t know what is going to happen this year, though!
Old 06-15-2021 | 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by desmotesta
yup. I was in NOVA from '91 to '99

Hated the 3%+ (at that time) yearly property tax on All cars..

Now in NC, .9% is way better
It’s 4.57 percent in Fairfax County now!
Old 06-15-2021 | 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Hurricane
It’s 4.57 percent in Fairfax County now!
wow just wow

I lived in Chantilly, centerville, by 1999 it got to the point where I couldn't take it anymore. The traffic, moronic drivers and commute all was a but too much for me.
Old 06-15-2021 | 01:48 PM
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I've had a few cars saved in my autotrader account and this is bananas.... Mercedes Benz of Bend has been INCREASING the price on this targa since listing it for sale. Now at $177k link here
Old 06-15-2021 | 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Martin S.
Let's assume the Pinks are for a car collection of desirable cars. This chap is making good appreciation money...and the CA Franchise Tax Board seems not be concerned if one make some Capital Gains selling a car(s). Try selling your house now valued at $2,500,000 that was purchased in 1999 for $570,000. (This sort of appreciation is par for the course these days in desirable areas of CA). .....yes you'll get a $500,000 credit off the $2,500,000, and the base will be $570,000, subtract that, but you will with CA Income tax 13%+, and Federal Capital gains...assuming a person is in the top income bracket, 20%....you'll pay about 33% of the gain from the $1,500,000, about $450,000 in taxes. As a conciliation, there is thatFederal tax code provision where you can write off up to $10,000. Thanks Congress and Trump for hosing us in this one. And I do note, that the present WA establishment is not discussing nor anywhere near implementing a reversal of this heinous tax policy.

Sell $1,500,000 in collectors, discretely, you'll pay nothing....Conclusion, go ahead and get that late model GT3 RS: It looks to be a great investment....you can't drive a house!
"Thanks Congress and Trump for hosing us in this one" you mean someone finally had enough common sense to stop subsidizing California for their historic dumb decisions....
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Old 06-15-2021 | 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by flsupraguy
"Thanks Congress and Trump for hosing us in this one" you mean someone finally had enough common sense to stop subsidizing California for their historic dumb decisions....
All roads lead to the cesspool?

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First off, you would have probably put about $500k of improvements into the house since 1999 so you can reduce your gain further by that (however, the net entire gain would be taxed at 23%, not 20% btw + 13% so effectively $360K vs $450K). Secondly, this(10K deduction limit for state income tax & real estate taxes) is a moot point anyway because you were denied these deductions prior to this anyway under the alternative minimum tax rules which were in effect way before Trump, (and which he did away with by the way).

However, your point is well taken with respect to being unreasonably taxed on our good fortune, but someone has to pay for all the (insert) programs, etc.
Old 06-15-2021 | 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Sporty
First off, you would have probably put about $500k of improvements into the house since 1999 so you can reduce your gain further by that (however, the net entire gain would be taxed at 23%, not 20% btw + 13% so effectively $360K vs $450K). Secondly, this(10K deduction limit for state income tax & real estate taxes) is a moot point anyway because you were denied these deductions prior to this anyway under the alternative minimum tax rules which were in effect way before Trump, (and which he did away with by the way).

However, your point is well taken with respect to being unreasonably taxed on our good fortune, but someone has to pay for all the (insert) programs, etc.

And people actually wonder why Moderators delete all of this **** talk over and over again.

this conversation doesn't belong here. Repeat offenders should be banned. No warnings, no BS.. My .02 cents
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Old 06-15-2021 | 03:54 PM
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if only there was a place where we could discuss the current pricing of 991's...
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Old 06-15-2021 | 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by desmotesta
And people actually wonder why Moderators delete all of this **** talk over and over again.

this conversation doesn't belong here. Repeat offenders should be banned. No warnings, no BS.. My .02 cents
Whoa big fella- why the animus? - just a little sidebar on taxability of gains, very neutral on my part-just like to see facts accurately stated. I am not the one that started this and did not use the adjective "cesspool"

As far as 911 pricing, yeah they are way up just like my house - do I want to sell either ? - no. Not much more to say.
Old 06-15-2021 | 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by p010sp0rt8
lol.. i hate taxes as much as the next guy, but some of this is kinda silly.. If you were to have put in 570k in a single vehicle in 1999 unless you bought a select few they would not be worth 2.5M today. Also there are provisions where you can move the gains over to the purchase of a new primary resident home if you are selling your current primary residence to avoid much of the taxes***.
Finally, yes you can live in a car, but i damn bet if you lived in your 570k car from 1999 it definitely would not be worth 2.5M today. all in all i still agree with you that taxes suck and the codes are stupid, but the analogy of cars vs homes don't work.
The point I was trying to make, apparently not that clear, CA and the Feds do not seem to be going after capital gains on vehicle sales. A person with a car/art/watch, etc. collection that has appreciated dramatically, could pare down the collection a bit and pocket money untaxed. I could babble on about taxes...BUT, this is a 991 car forum...so I will drop this.
Old 06-15-2021 | 11:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Hurricane
I’ll add that the amount generally goes down every year as your car depreciates. I don’t know what is going to happen this year, though!
I already got a notification from Arlington County warning that market values have increased for cars this year and valuations for property tax may be updated accordingly.
Old 06-16-2021 | 08:12 AM
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You guys complaining about taxes LOL
I moved last year from St louis to GA... So I paid MO personnel property tax.. Than GA made bend over and pay (new vehicle tax) in order to register my car in the state.
I paid around $5,500 in taxes for a car I ALREADY own total....
That's before registration fee's...

No way I'm buying a new car and paying taxes again... its giving your money away for no reason
The vehicle tax in GA is not kind... The use tax is.. lease it!

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Old 06-16-2021 | 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by sunspot2013
I already got a notification from Arlington County warning that market values have increased for cars this year and valuations for property tax may be updated accordingly.


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