sticky

It's 44 pounds over a comparably equipped car meaning with PCCB's and LWB's it is even lighter.

I don't know if you look at independent weight tests but RWD 911's tend to be in the 33XX range equipped. This is going to be in the 31XX range.

You can add the PCM back in if you want.

sticky

Why? When this is the perfect track tool? I'd chose this over the S or GTS. The only thing the S or GTS offer is more power and more weight plus the GTS wider body produces more drag. The power aspect is easily rectified as it is the SAME ENGINE.

sticky

Is this seriously all you guys have? It's the same people you can count on one hand constantly barking this same nonsense.

You're never even going to be close enough in your old 991.1 to hear this car on the track.

The engine sounds awesome. It's only the people who don't have one and can't afford to move into one that try to delude themselves otherwise. Superb note:

K-A

Lmao. Those poverty 991.1’s you speak of are selling for more than your base .2 will on the used market. And the .2 is the first new 911 that sold less than the outgoing model. Lots of people outside your whoosh bubble with reasons for that.

And if you think a .2 sounds “awesome,” I doubt you’ve driven a .1. Most of us won’t drive our own cars on a track, but we get the effects of that soundtrack slung behind the rear axle 100% of the time.

#YourCarIsNotA918 #370HPIsLessThanAMustang

sticky

That's great. You sit there and talk about perceived values while others drive their cars.

The only sound I'm hearing coming from any 991.1 is butthurt.

This is a new 991.2. If you want to pat yourself on the back over your exhaust note you have a ton of other threads to do it in. Hell, record it and make it your ringtone. Add it to your playlist.

A new light and driver's focused 911 comes out and the insecurity plays out as it always does from the same people it always does.

Oh, and the 911 sure does a lot with its '370' hp like outrun the GT350 for example. Weird. An even lighter version will be even quicker.

#YourCarIsNotAGT3

Archimedes

Settle down Francis, it was just a passing comment. The .2s are awesome cars. But sound awesome, they do not. Not trying to start the stupid flame war about the cars. Just pointing out that the car in that video sounds horrible.

Nobody's butthurt and, trust me, I'd have no trouble affording one if I wanted one. I'm currently begging for a GT3 allocation.

sticky

They sound great it's just you wanting to believe they do not that is the issue, not the engine note. I don't blame you want to convince yourself there is some reason the 991.1 is still relevant.

I disagree and think it sounds awesome. I probably also have a bit more seat time with one.

Archimedes

Why on earth would I 'want to believe' that they sound like crap?! I mostly love the car otherwise and if it sounded great I might even own one right now. Why would I lie about how I feel about the sound of the .2? What's your logic? What benefit do I get from making believe that I don't like the sound of these cars?

mikeearly

all I've got to say is that if I managed to win a new "T" in the PCA auction this fall it AIN"T going back marketing exercise or not!!

K-A

Right on bro. Tell those .1ers. They don’t even TORK BRO!

I actually dig this Carrera T. It’ll unlock some viscerality missing from the 3.0 .2’s. But it’s hard to pass off as a true purist model with turbos whistling along, sucking the sound and emotion out. Like it or not, if Porsche wants to pass a car off as a true pleasure seeker (which this is, this isn’t a track intended GT car) and push the “purist” angle, their success with N/A models dominating this emoticons field will always follow them.

Dewinator

Sticky is a chick?

sticky

Yeah all those non-enthusiast and non-emotional GT2 models over the years really support your argument.

This echo chamber of NA nonsense is to the point of ignoring Porsche's own history with enthusiast turbo models.

pfbz

Wow... This thread devolved quickly.

I love the potential of the 991.2 3.0 turbos, including the base.

Perfect build for me? A low option 991T with full buckets, manual transmission, rear-axle steering, sport chrono. But the cherry would be for Porsche to allow installation of the ~$5.7K (suncoast price) X51 991.2 powerkit turbos and software to give it 450HP.

THAT would kick ***.

sticky

What benefit is there to deluding yourself that your purchase is not outdated and still somehow relevant in the modern Porsche climate?

Hmm, I wonder.

Either way, this thread isn't about 991.1 delusions of grandeur.

sticky

Another person who gets it and isn't living in the past.

It's 450 hp with the GTS kit (with stock software) and testing on a base WITH THIS KIT is currently taking place

No word yet on if the owner intends to trade it in for a 991.1 3.4 because he likes the sound of beehives over the feel of horsepower.