Porsche Cracking Down on Flippers?
06-20-2017, 08:45 PM
#436
It sounds good but how do they know what the contracted selling price is? Even the buyer is not incented to tell the truth on how much over they are paying as it delays their order. The dealer certainly won't tell and can easily conceal the fleecing.
06-20-2017, 09:57 PM
#437
Nordschleife Master
Originally Posted by CAlexio
http://jalopnik.com/the-people-who-p...e-l-1796270712
Looks like FCA, is implementing a very original plan in order to reduce dealer gouging.. they are delivering cars with highest ADM's.. LAST.
the details are as follows:
New Dodge Challenger SRT Demon starts at a U.S. Manufacturer’s Suggested Retail Price (MSRP) of $84,995 (including $1,700 gas guzzler tax, excluding $1,095 destination); Demon crate unleashes full power for $1
Demons sold at or below MSRP will receive priority scheduling resulting in lower serial numbers; Demons sold at a price that exceeds MSRP will be produced after priority production is completed
Dealers can only order as many Demons as they are allocated
the amount of demons each dealership will get is based solely on sales performance. From the release:
To be eligible to order a Challenger SRT Demon, dealers must have sold more than one SRT Hellcat in the last 12 months
Dealer allocation will be based on 60 percent SRT Hellcat and 40 percent Charger and Challenger sales performance
Dealers can only order as many Demons as they are allocated
is this some kind of genius inspired move on the part of FCA????
Looks like FCA, is implementing a very original plan in order to reduce dealer gouging.. they are delivering cars with highest ADM's.. LAST.
the details are as follows:
New Dodge Challenger SRT Demon starts at a U.S. Manufacturer’s Suggested Retail Price (MSRP) of $84,995 (including $1,700 gas guzzler tax, excluding $1,095 destination); Demon crate unleashes full power for $1
Demons sold at or below MSRP will receive priority scheduling resulting in lower serial numbers; Demons sold at a price that exceeds MSRP will be produced after priority production is completed
Dealers can only order as many Demons as they are allocated
the amount of demons each dealership will get is based solely on sales performance. From the release:
To be eligible to order a Challenger SRT Demon, dealers must have sold more than one SRT Hellcat in the last 12 months
Dealer allocation will be based on 60 percent SRT Hellcat and 40 percent Charger and Challenger sales performance
Dealers can only order as many Demons as they are allocated
is this some kind of genius inspired move on the part of FCA????
06-20-2017, 10:31 PM
#438
Rennlist Member
at least Dodge is making some efforts, it may take multiple actions to control this, I also believe Porsche 911R owner inquiries are a step in the right direction
06-20-2017, 10:49 PM
#439
Rennlist Member
So you sell a crippled car hen force buyers to schedule their "tune" to get what they paid for? I'd love to see a typical P car buyer's face when they hear that.
06-20-2017, 11:30 PM
#440
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http://jalopnik.com/the-people-who-p...e-l-1796270712
Looks like FCA, is implementing a very original plan in order to reduce dealer gouging.. they are delivering cars with highest ADM's.. LAST.
the details are as follows:
New Dodge Challenger SRT Demon starts at a U.S. Manufacturer’s Suggested Retail Price (MSRP) of $84,995 (including $1,700 gas guzzler tax, excluding $1,095 destination); Demon crate unleashes full power for $1
Demons sold at or below MSRP will receive priority scheduling resulting in lower serial numbers; Demons sold at a price that exceeds MSRP will be produced after priority production is completed
Dealers can only order as many Demons as they are allocated
the amount of demons each dealership will get is based solely on sales performance. From the release:
To be eligible to order a Challenger SRT Demon, dealers must have sold more than one SRT Hellcat in the last 12 months
Dealer allocation will be based on 60 percent SRT Hellcat and 40 percent Charger and Challenger sales performance
Dealers can only order as many Demons as they are allocated
is this some kind of genius inspired move on the part of FCA????
Looks like FCA, is implementing a very original plan in order to reduce dealer gouging.. they are delivering cars with highest ADM's.. LAST.
the details are as follows:
New Dodge Challenger SRT Demon starts at a U.S. Manufacturer’s Suggested Retail Price (MSRP) of $84,995 (including $1,700 gas guzzler tax, excluding $1,095 destination); Demon crate unleashes full power for $1
Demons sold at or below MSRP will receive priority scheduling resulting in lower serial numbers; Demons sold at a price that exceeds MSRP will be produced after priority production is completed
Dealers can only order as many Demons as they are allocated
the amount of demons each dealership will get is based solely on sales performance. From the release:
To be eligible to order a Challenger SRT Demon, dealers must have sold more than one SRT Hellcat in the last 12 months
Dealer allocation will be based on 60 percent SRT Hellcat and 40 percent Charger and Challenger sales performance
Dealers can only order as many Demons as they are allocated
is this some kind of genius inspired move on the part of FCA????
06-20-2017, 11:56 PM
#441
Three Wheelin'
http://jalopnik.com/the-people-who-p...e-l-1796270712
Looks like FCA, is implementing a very original plan in order to reduce dealer gouging.. they are delivering cars with highest ADM's.. LAST.
the details are as fol
New Dodge Challenger SRT Demon starts at a U.S. Manufacturer’s Suggested Retail Price (MSRP) of $84,995 (including $1,700 gas guzzler tax, excluding $1,095 destination); Demon crate unleashes full power for $1
Demons sold at or below MSRP will receive priority scheduling resulting in lower serial numbers; Demons sold at a price that exceeds MSRP will be produced after priority production is completed
Dealers can only order as many Demons as they are allocated
the amount of demons each dealership will get is based solely on sales performance. From the release:
To be eligible to order a Challenger SRT Demon, dealers must have sold more than one SRT Hellcat in the last 12 months
Dealer allocation will be based on 60 percent SRT Hellcat and 40 percent Charger and Challenger sales performance
Dealers can only order as many Demons as they are allocated
is this some kind of genius inspired move on the part of FCA????
Looks like FCA, is implementing a very original plan in order to reduce dealer gouging.. they are delivering cars with highest ADM's.. LAST.
the details are as fol
New Dodge Challenger SRT Demon starts at a U.S. Manufacturer’s Suggested Retail Price (MSRP) of $84,995 (including $1,700 gas guzzler tax, excluding $1,095 destination); Demon crate unleashes full power for $1
Demons sold at or below MSRP will receive priority scheduling resulting in lower serial numbers; Demons sold at a price that exceeds MSRP will be produced after priority production is completed
Dealers can only order as many Demons as they are allocated
the amount of demons each dealership will get is based solely on sales performance. From the release:
To be eligible to order a Challenger SRT Demon, dealers must have sold more than one SRT Hellcat in the last 12 months
Dealer allocation will be based on 60 percent SRT Hellcat and 40 percent Charger and Challenger sales performance
Dealers can only order as many Demons as they are allocated
is this some kind of genius inspired move on the part of FCA????
This is is brilliant! So flippers get the cars earlier? I'm going to be a flipper now this plan seals the deal! If I find a dealer that sells at Msrp I'll get my demon early so I can flip it for profit while those that paid over.....wait longer. Ha ha ha ha......solve one problem and create 2 more
06-21-2017, 12:10 AM
#442
I think they overestimate how many under-endowed idiots want to pay even MSRP for this "Demon" car that's useless for anything but drag racing.
Poor replacement for stopping production on the Viper, one of the sickest cars ever made, IMHO.
Poor replacement for stopping production on the Viper, one of the sickest cars ever made, IMHO.
06-21-2017, 12:41 AM
#443
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Agreed, though the point isn't about the Demon. The best thing I can think of to sum this up, is at least they tried? I feel like this again rewards the best customers. Rightfully it should, but those people, like many of the 918 VIP owners will then have the incentive to flip their cars and the market will be flooded with overpriced cars. Poorly thought out in my opinion.
06-21-2017, 12:43 AM
#444
The msrp will be nearly the same on every sale. What will be different will be extra kick backs - race team sponsorships, cash under the table, etc... this is step 1 in solving the problem.
06-21-2017, 12:53 AM
#445
Rennlist Member
I just cannot believe Hellcats, mustangs and most trucks are $80k+ these days, even the v8 2dr lexus is $100k.
06-21-2017, 02:10 AM
#446
Rennlist Member
Sure, I give out "mis-information."
Let me just ask you this question Eduardo. Are you sure with ABSOLUTE CERTAINTY that ALL PTS cars are painted at Porsche in-house? This would include all of the special one-off painted 918 with the racing liveries, or the 911R with the painted stripes?
I have been to the facility that painted my 911R, and it ain't anywhere close to Porscheplatz...
Let me just ask you this question Eduardo. Are you sure with ABSOLUTE CERTAINTY that ALL PTS cars are painted at Porsche in-house? This would include all of the special one-off painted 918 with the racing liveries, or the 911R with the painted stripes?
I have been to the facility that painted my 911R, and it ain't anywhere close to Porscheplatz...
How dare you go against Eduardo? The self proclaimed king of PTS on Rennlist, one that PAG absolutely hated his existence.
PTS was a difficult process, and he 'decoded' the whole damn thing and had mass produced people asking for it. In the numbers that Porsche can't handled.
Now that you got his wrath, he will go to no end to keep quoting your 'mistakes' unit you will run and hide from him. look at how he keep quoting mine posts for his ammo.
You and I know nothing about the process, even the facility you visited that painted your 911R was just a setup, your car was painted in-house at the paint booth in Zuffenhausen. He KNOWS that as that's what he was told. HIS information will always be correct. No one else will have better information according to him. He will never be wrong, ever. Only us mortals are always wrong.
In his world, those robots at the paint booth in Zuffenhausen are so advanced, they can paint stripes without masking for the 5 painted stripe 911Rs. Hell even switching paint mid stream for the gulf color 911R was no problem, look at how clean the lines between the paint were on that 911R!
And they can switch paint on the fly to paint the Meissen Blue 911R right after it painted a Jet Black 718. Hell, Klaus Zellmer who I just had dinner with on Sunday night in Paris was full of **** when he said those PTS 911Rs were painted off side. The owner of the Meissen Blue car was next to me and he fully believed his car was custom painted off site. Oh well, Eduardo just bursted his bubble.
06-21-2017, 02:14 AM
#447
Rennlist Member
There are quite a few 918s with PAINTED livery, and not a sticker applied on top.........
06-21-2017, 02:16 AM
#448
Rennlist Member
Yeah well considered that PTS cars are perceived to be worth more, then if your car is painted on the moon, then it will be worth that much more than those ordinary PTS cars that are painted in Germany.
06-21-2017, 06:51 PM
#449
Rennlist Member
I don’t contribute much to Rennlist, but, like many, I enjoy reading interesting posts from other enthusiasts. I always appreciate the insights Eduardo, Martin, Whoopsy, unotaz and others offer. Whether right, wrong, or otherwise, all are valuable contributions. They invite further thought and discourse about our wonderful Porsche cars, which is always a good thing.
06-21-2017, 07:02 PM
#450
Agreed. A lot of hand wringing going on between the best posters on Rennlist. Not really warranted.