Porsche Cracking Down on Flippers?
05-31-2017, 06:29 PM
#241
None of them are the New New. I also wouldn't be surprised if we see some big hits on the 991.1 GT3, 991.1 RS and 991.1 GT4 based on what is coming down the pipe and likely production numbers.
05-31-2017, 06:36 PM
#242
Race Director
Originally Posted by JonA85
I'm so glad someone can explain this all to us
The car genius here.
"Porsche GT Boss. I don't remember your name"
Last edited by STG; 05-31-2017 at 07:00 PM.
05-31-2017, 06:57 PM
#243
Drifting
"Supply bottlenecks"
"Last manual"
Etc.
R8 V10 Plus?
05-31-2017, 06:59 PM
#244
05-31-2017, 08:59 PM
#245
Race Director
06-01-2017, 12:52 AM
#246
06-01-2017, 02:14 AM
#247
Rennlist Member
Last summer one even told me (The Owner) he wanted 100k over sticker to get his first allocation. He was dead *** serious too. I swear to you this happened as rediculous as it sounds. I kid you not. No joke.
06-01-2017, 11:57 AM
#248
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I find it funny how any dealer can charge whatever they want BUT the minute a customer does something everyone loses their minds. I don't like, matter fact NEVER pay over sticker for anything, especially cars. But I also understand that people will have a car that is highly sought after and sell it before the magical 6 month window and likely make a profit. Who cares? I'd rather have us, the customers, make money than Porsche and their dealers make ever more money. It's hypocritical in my eyes. If Porsche cracks down on dealers screwing their customers over simultaneously with cracking down on the customer basis flipping cars then I am all for it. But, it shouldn't be a one way street, period.
06-01-2017, 02:29 PM
#249
I find it funny how any dealer can charge whatever they want BUT the minute a customer does something everyone loses their minds. I don't like, matter fact NEVER pay over sticker for anything, especially cars. But I also understand that people will have a car that is highly sought after and sell it before the magical 6 month window and likely make a profit. Who cares? I'd rather have us, the customers, make money than Porsche and their dealers make ever more money. It's hypocritical in my eyes. If Porsche cracks down on dealers screwing their customers over simultaneously with cracking down on the customer basis flipping cars then I am all for it. But, it shouldn't be a one way street, period.
Individual customers usually don't have the same resources to make a market, just an individual transaction.
06-01-2017, 03:09 PM
#250
I went to about 8 P dealers trying to get a build for MSRP all which laughed at me. Finally I found one that hooked me up, and its local which makes it even better.
Last summer one even told me (The Owner) he wanted 100k over sticker to get his first allocation. He was dead *** serious too. I swear to you this happened as rediculous as it sounds. I kid you not. No joke.
Last summer one even told me (The Owner) he wanted 100k over sticker to get his first allocation. He was dead *** serious too. I swear to you this happened as rediculous as it sounds. I kid you not. No joke.
06-01-2017, 04:20 PM
#251
I went to about 8 P dealers trying to get a build for MSRP all which laughed at me. Finally I found one that hooked me up, and its local which makes it even better.
Last summer one even told me (The Owner) he wanted 100k over sticker to get his first allocation. He was dead *** serious too. I swear to you this happened as rediculous as it sounds. I kid you not. No joke.
Last summer one even told me (The Owner) he wanted 100k over sticker to get his first allocation. He was dead *** serious too. I swear to you this happened as rediculous as it sounds. I kid you not. No joke.
Word of advice: if your dealer asks you to drop to your knees and **** him for an allocation, don't assume that others are doing the same.
06-01-2017, 07:46 PM
#252
Burning Brakes
For last 9 years, I have purchased and owned and driven the following Porsche's:
Modern:
2008 Porsche 997.1 GT3-RS (Viper Green)
2010 Porsche 997.2 GT3 Cup
2011 Porsche Boxster Spyder (Arctic Silver)
2011 Porsche 997.2 GT3-RS (White)
2015 Porsche 991.1 GT3 (White)
2016 Porsche 991.1 GT3-RS (White)
2017 Porsche 991.2 C4S (GT Silver) - CURRENT (DAILY)
Classic:
’67 911 (Polo Red)
’73 911T (Silver)
’73 911S (Irish Green) - CURRENT
’73 911 Carrera RS 2.7 (Tangerine #440) - CURRENT
’76 911 Carrera MFI ROW (Continental Orange)
’87 930 Turbo (White)
’91 964 3.3 Turbo (Red)
And I cannot track down a new GT3 allocation from any dealer; sure I could find one out of state; but how is that good customer service? I have never flipped a Porsche. I drive them. I track them. I love these cars. I represent their ideal customer and am loyal to them. It's hard to not get upset. And I am sure there are many who have bought many more than me in the same situation. If Porsche truly cared for enthusiast buyers, then they would ensure people like myself and others were able to get these cars without the fuss.
Modern:
2008 Porsche 997.1 GT3-RS (Viper Green)
2010 Porsche 997.2 GT3 Cup
2011 Porsche Boxster Spyder (Arctic Silver)
2011 Porsche 997.2 GT3-RS (White)
2015 Porsche 991.1 GT3 (White)
2016 Porsche 991.1 GT3-RS (White)
2017 Porsche 991.2 C4S (GT Silver) - CURRENT (DAILY)
Classic:
’67 911 (Polo Red)
’73 911T (Silver)
’73 911S (Irish Green) - CURRENT
’73 911 Carrera RS 2.7 (Tangerine #440) - CURRENT
’76 911 Carrera MFI ROW (Continental Orange)
’87 930 Turbo (White)
’91 964 3.3 Turbo (Red)
And I cannot track down a new GT3 allocation from any dealer; sure I could find one out of state; but how is that good customer service? I have never flipped a Porsche. I drive them. I track them. I love these cars. I represent their ideal customer and am loyal to them. It's hard to not get upset. And I am sure there are many who have bought many more than me in the same situation. If Porsche truly cared for enthusiast buyers, then they would ensure people like myself and others were able to get these cars without the fuss.
Game, set, and match. Your post cuts to the crux of the issue (wouldn't it be nice if Preuninger read it). If Porsche is serious about the issue, they will produce as many GT3 as they can sell. That's not the case. Therefore; Herr Preuninger is blowing smoke.
Regarding the 911R owners being upset by their assets perceived devaluation. Fukc em
06-01-2017, 08:39 PM
#253
Pro
I hate car flippers period. Let us all enjoy the toys that we pay fair price for.
Flippers ruin everything for the enthusiasts. Flippers are not enthusiasts period.
Why can't Porsche break all contracts with dealers and start doing their own stores like Tesla does. There won't really be huge job losses as the sales team can work in the stores.
Flippers ruin everything for the enthusiasts. Flippers are not enthusiasts period.
Why can't Porsche break all contracts with dealers and start doing their own stores like Tesla does. There won't really be huge job losses as the sales team can work in the stores.
06-01-2017, 08:48 PM
#254
Rennlist Member
But yes every dealer besides one in my chi area were trying to rape me, no lube.
Lucked out on my last attempt though
Hit my guy up yesterday just o reaffirm my spec would be at MSRP and he said no doubt
