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Old 05-30-2017, 11:37 PM
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Originally Posted by mass27
Which is what a car is SUPPOSED to do. That would also eliminated 48% of the posts on here about pricing/value.

The questions are; what caused this, and more importantly, how can this situation be corrected?

Imagine if GT cars had a depreciation curve like an AMG, MAC, BMW. How many people here would not have purchased a GT car? How many here would not be able to trade in their 3 year old GT car for the price they paid for it and be guaranteed top spot in the next GT car? How many people here would be flipping their car?

This is NOT a supply or demand issue.
This is NOT a dealer issue.
This is NOT a flipper issue.

A complete change in the GT market / buyer philosophy would change it. Make GT cars depreciate as they are SUPPOSED to and every single issue relating to supply/demand/ADM/stealerships/flipping will be rectified.
Only comment I have read that is rational and unbiased. If supply was plenty, half the ppl complaining won't be buying one. A car is a car, if u r on the "list" for one great, if not, big deal move on as there r still other great cars around to get into. Because it is hard to get into, so everyone wants to feel "special". And if u really must have one, be patient and hunt for one eventually u will get it. Its like successful ppl dun sit around complaining things not working out for them, they go out to make things happen for them.
Old 05-30-2017, 11:38 PM
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Originally Posted by goin2drt
Didn't say anything about that post. I was replying to the quote about the R correcting. From 500 down to 450 on a 200 MSRP is hardly a big correction
Two months ago, the 911Rs were asking $550k. ~20% down in 2 months would be called more than a "correction" in the stock market.

And I used "correcting," the clear implication being there's more to go as the 991.2 GT3 w/manuals approach dealer showrooms.
Old 05-30-2017, 11:49 PM
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When people talk about how 'we' should do this or not do that they are trying to shape the market. It doesn't work. The market is the market. It takes a lot more than a post on a forum to change that. If thousands of people decided that they didn't want a gently used GT3 and really wanted a gently used Quattroporte then the depreciation curve on both would change dramatically. But it won't. People want what they want.
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Originally Posted by WernerE
Two months ago, the 911Rs were asking $550k. ~20% down in 2 months would be called more than a "correction" in the stock market.

And I used "correcting," the clear implication being there's more to go as the 991.2 GT3 w/manuals approach dealer showrooms.
****.

I just paid $550,000.23 for an R.

Patience was never a virtue of mine.
Old 05-31-2017, 12:17 AM
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Originally Posted by ipse dixit
****.

I just paid $550,000.23 for an R.

Patience was never a virtue of mine.
Uhmmm... probably worth $550k, but about that 23 cents? Should have asked for 550 even.
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Originally Posted by Dewinator
Uhmmm... probably worth $550k, but about that 23 cents? Should have asked for 550 even.
They wanted 73¢ over $550,000.

I had to draw the line somewhere. Not made of cash, y'know.
Old 05-31-2017, 04:57 AM
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Im thinking P is expecting massive "flipper" profits on this upcoming .2 to put out such a statement like this.

A local dealer hit me up asking 30k over for an allocation. I even bet the first few batches of the manuals will tip 50k over on the secondary.
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Originally Posted by ipse dixit
****.

I just paid $550,000.23 for an R.

Patience was never a virtue of mine.
Lol. Just don't watch a recent Jethro's GT3 review; he said a bad thing about you.
Old 05-31-2017, 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Dewinator
Uhmmm... probably worth $550k, but about that 23 cents? Should have asked for 550 even.
probably wanted it to end in an prime number!

Old 05-31-2017, 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by camjan
Im thinking P is expecting massive "flipper" profits on this upcoming .2 to put out such a statement like this.

A local dealer hit me up asking 30k over for an allocation. I even bet the first few batches of the manuals will tip 50k over on the secondary.
I sincerely doubt that.

And Porsche didn't put out a statement like this. AP made some comments personally that folks are over thinking and blowing out of proportion. Nothing to see here.
Old 05-31-2017, 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by camjan
Im thinking P is expecting massive "flipper" profits on this upcoming .2 to put out such a statement like this.

A local dealer hit me up asking 30k over for an allocation. I even bet the first few batches of the manuals will tip 50k over on the secondary.
Let me pay over $50k and then lose it within 12 months...maybe they'll learn their lesson not to do that again in the future.
Old 05-31-2017, 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by usctrojanGT3
Let me pay over $50k and then lose it within 12 months...maybe they'll learn their lesson not to do that again in the future.
What's the alternative though? TTS, 570S, Cali T, AMG GT R - all probably going to cost $40k to $50k to own for 12 months.

People are being spoiled by the GT car market at the moment and forget that cars should depreciate an easy 20%+ in their first year.
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Originally Posted by NateOZ
What's the alternative though? TTS, 570S, Cali T, AMG GT R - all probably going to cost $40k to $50k to own for 12 months.
Used 996/997 GT3 or GT4?
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Originally Posted by NateOZ
What's the alternative though? TTS, 570S, Cali T, AMG GT R - all probably going to cost $40k to $50k to own for 12 months.

People are being spoiled by the GT car market at the moment and forget that cars should depreciate an easy 20%+ in their first year.
Used 997.2RS, 991.1GT3, 991.1RS, and GT4...none of those cars will lose $40k to $50k even if driven and owned for 2 years. Same old ****, I'm a newb compared to some of you guys but I'm already starting to see the same pattern over and over and over again.
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