991.2 GT3 reviews thread.
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From aussi review:
Playing support to the 911 GT3's new engine is its new gearbox. It's the first manual available since the second generation model ceased production back in 2011, and quite possibly the best ever. The six-speed Getrag produced unit, brought over from the 911 R, weighs 17kg less than the seven-speed dual-clutch gearbox, reducing the new Porsche's kerb weight to 1413kg and marginally improving its overall power-to-weight ratio in the process. The two gearboxes share the same first, second, third and fourth gear ratios, with fifth and sixth being more heavily overdriven in the manual than the self shifter which has one more gear. They also receive the same 3.76:1 final drive ratio.
2017 Porsche 911 GT3.
First impressions are extremely positive: the dual-plate clutch is predictably firm and has a very defined friction point indent. The gear lever, quite short and conveniently positioned just a hand's span away from the steering wheel, also boasts a superb action, with a heavily spring loaded feel in both the horizontal and vertical planes. There is an engaging snappiness to each gear change, though the new 911 GT3's manual gearbox requires some heft and determination from the driver, especially on the up-shifts, before delivering its best. There is a tiny bit of slack as you come out of each gear, but the inherent precision you encounter with the engagement of the following ratio means you can hurry it across the gates at high revs without any fear of it baulking.
When you dial up Sport mode, the gearbox software will blip the throttle to provide perfectly rev-matched downshifts. Paradoxically, it is arguably more involving in Comfort mode, where you're left to your own devices. The relatively wide spacing of the ratios requires you to be quite explicit on each blip, but get your heel-and-toe action right, and you are richly rewarded. Applying this understanding to the way you drive the manual version 911 GT3 is crucial to unlocking its performance potential on challenging roads, providing you with the feeling that you're not just controlling the action but are an intricate part of it, too. One thing's for sure: it is far more fulfilling than a simple flick of your finger on a steering wheel mounted paddle, as required by the dual-clutch gearbox.
Playing support to the 911 GT3's new engine is its new gearbox. It's the first manual available since the second generation model ceased production back in 2011, and quite possibly the best ever. The six-speed Getrag produced unit, brought over from the 911 R, weighs 17kg less than the seven-speed dual-clutch gearbox, reducing the new Porsche's kerb weight to 1413kg and marginally improving its overall power-to-weight ratio in the process. The two gearboxes share the same first, second, third and fourth gear ratios, with fifth and sixth being more heavily overdriven in the manual than the self shifter which has one more gear. They also receive the same 3.76:1 final drive ratio.
2017 Porsche 911 GT3.
First impressions are extremely positive: the dual-plate clutch is predictably firm and has a very defined friction point indent. The gear lever, quite short and conveniently positioned just a hand's span away from the steering wheel, also boasts a superb action, with a heavily spring loaded feel in both the horizontal and vertical planes. There is an engaging snappiness to each gear change, though the new 911 GT3's manual gearbox requires some heft and determination from the driver, especially on the up-shifts, before delivering its best. There is a tiny bit of slack as you come out of each gear, but the inherent precision you encounter with the engagement of the following ratio means you can hurry it across the gates at high revs without any fear of it baulking.
When you dial up Sport mode, the gearbox software will blip the throttle to provide perfectly rev-matched downshifts. Paradoxically, it is arguably more involving in Comfort mode, where you're left to your own devices. The relatively wide spacing of the ratios requires you to be quite explicit on each blip, but get your heel-and-toe action right, and you are richly rewarded. Applying this understanding to the way you drive the manual version 911 GT3 is crucial to unlocking its performance potential on challenging roads, providing you with the feeling that you're not just controlling the action but are an intricate part of it, too. One thing's for sure: it is far more fulfilling than a simple flick of your finger on a steering wheel mounted paddle, as required by the dual-clutch gearbox.
#155
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Originally Posted by ChicagoM4
This has the PDK and Manual
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Good MT review with some driftless track footage: https://www.carthrottle.com/post/201...diculous-hype/
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The newer GT3 is going to be a blast, this comment from the reviewers shouldn't be surprising. However, they all pretty much like driving the .2 GT3 as if it is the first GT3 with rear wheel steering .... wow it makes the car glued to the road .... This is something that all .1 GT3 has experienced already, right? The only thing seems to be the engine (now 4.0 and from Cup car) that makes the .2 GT3 stands out. Perhaps the extra 20% downforce making the car to handle better at high speed. When these people drive the .1 GT3, similar comments were given. Hope there will be a review that really compares the .1 GT3 and .2 GT3.
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Good point. That's why to me, the real value lies in coupling this car with a manual, if you want manual there literally is no other choice.. however, for the .2 pdk, it's a different story, especially If I had a .1 which hasn't exploded yet, I wouldn't look twice at this .2 just for the engine. It's a small incremental benefit, but not worth the massive premium between a depreciated .1 and an Msrp .2, let alone an ADM .2.. that upgrade is just for the stupid money. Even if I didn't have a .1, and I wanted pdk, id go into the used market armed with knowledge of possible engine problems and negotiate like hell.. its the perfect time to buy one!
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