McLaren Success
#692
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Now let's look at the GT3 - my '14 has 19K miles, ~30 track days, 3.5 years and not a single limp mode or check engine light, no track days missed or ended early, never stranded. The precautionary engine replacement came with a loaner and a rather generous reimbursement, and many tracked their loaners without a peep from Porsche. Yes, some may have gotten the inconvenience of the second engine replacement, but it's a small number so far.
#695
Drifting
Having owned numerous Ferraris, Lamborghini and Mclaren, what most people on this forum have ignored is the cost of ownership. Yes, it is a great deal to buying an used 650S at the moment. The performance of the car is great and you get so much more with the Mclaren compared to the GT3. BUT, you are also jumping into a different class of cars as well.
Whether its the 650S or the 570S, it is going to cost you almost double to triple in annual service (depending if its the major or minor service). Once the car is out of warranty, that's where the $$$ starts to flow out. You can always opt to get the extended warranty, but that will cost you $$$ as well. Let me give you a simple example. The windshield on a 911/GT3 is about $1000. How about on a Mclaren 650S? $4500. The windshield on a 458 Speciale is $5000.
If you have owned a Ferrari or Lamborghini in the past, then the cost of owning a Mclaren shouldn't shock you as much. Mclaren still costs more to maintain, due to the amount of tech it has over the Lambo/Ferrari. But I'm afraid with most people on this board, they will be in for a huge surprise coming from the 911/GT3 level.
Whether its the 650S or the 570S, it is going to cost you almost double to triple in annual service (depending if its the major or minor service). Once the car is out of warranty, that's where the $$$ starts to flow out. You can always opt to get the extended warranty, but that will cost you $$$ as well. Let me give you a simple example. The windshield on a 911/GT3 is about $1000. How about on a Mclaren 650S? $4500. The windshield on a 458 Speciale is $5000.
If you have owned a Ferrari or Lamborghini in the past, then the cost of owning a Mclaren shouldn't shock you as much. Mclaren still costs more to maintain, due to the amount of tech it has over the Lambo/Ferrari. But I'm afraid with most people on this board, they will be in for a huge surprise coming from the 911/GT3 level.
#696
Rennlist Member
Having owned numerous Ferraris, Lamborghini and Mclaren, what most people on this forum have ignored is the cost of ownership. Yes, it is a great deal to buying an used 650S at the moment. The performance of the car is great and you get so much more with the Mclaren compared to the GT3. BUT, you are also jumping into a different class of cars as well.
Whether its the 650S or the 570S, it is going to cost you almost double to triple in annual service (depending if its the major or minor service). Once the car is out of warranty, that's where the $$$ starts to flow out. You can always opt to get the extended warranty, but that will cost you $$$ as well. Let me give you a simple example. The windshield on a 911/GT3 is about $1000. How about on a Mclaren 650S? $4500. The windshield on a 458 Speciale is $5000.
If you have owned a Ferrari or Lamborghini in the past, then the cost of owning a Mclaren shouldn't shock you as much. Mclaren still costs more to maintain, due to the amount of tech it has over the Lambo/Ferrari. But I'm afraid with most people on this board, they will be in for a huge surprise coming from the 911/GT3 level.
Whether its the 650S or the 570S, it is going to cost you almost double to triple in annual service (depending if its the major or minor service). Once the car is out of warranty, that's where the $$$ starts to flow out. You can always opt to get the extended warranty, but that will cost you $$$ as well. Let me give you a simple example. The windshield on a 911/GT3 is about $1000. How about on a Mclaren 650S? $4500. The windshield on a 458 Speciale is $5000.
If you have owned a Ferrari or Lamborghini in the past, then the cost of owning a Mclaren shouldn't shock you as much. Mclaren still costs more to maintain, due to the amount of tech it has over the Lambo/Ferrari. But I'm afraid with most people on this board, they will be in for a huge surprise coming from the 911/GT3 level.
#697
Rennlist Member
My 2 yr service on my 2015 gt3 was $2200 and the 1 yr service was $400. The annual service on a 570 S in so cal is $1500. Looks like the service is similar in price.
#698
Drifting
The 2 year service on my 12C (now gone) was about $3400. I expect the similar pricing for the 570S, which is 50% more than the GT3.
#699
Rennlist Member
#701
Having owned numerous Ferraris, Lamborghini and Mclaren, what most people on this forum have ignored is the cost of ownership. Yes, it is a great deal to buying an used 650S at the moment. The performance of the car is great and you get so much more with the Mclaren compared to the GT3. BUT, you are also jumping into a different class of cars as well.
Whether its the 650S or the 570S, it is going to cost you almost double to triple in annual service (depending if its the major or minor service). Once the car is out of warranty, that's where the $$$ starts to flow out. You can always opt to get the extended warranty, but that will cost you $$$ as well. Let me give you a simple example. The windshield on a 911/GT3 is about $1000. How about on a Mclaren 650S? $4500. The windshield on a 458 Speciale is $5000.
Whether its the 650S or the 570S, it is going to cost you almost double to triple in annual service (depending if its the major or minor service). Once the car is out of warranty, that's where the $$$ starts to flow out. You can always opt to get the extended warranty, but that will cost you $$$ as well. Let me give you a simple example. The windshield on a 911/GT3 is about $1000. How about on a Mclaren 650S? $4500. The windshield on a 458 Speciale is $5000.
#702
Race Director
Originally Posted by Archimedes
Every time I think about buying a 488, this is what brings me back down to earth. I just can't stomach spending so much just to keep an already overpriced car on the road.
#703
Drifting
The inconvenient truth is that GT3 is about two tiers BELOW the Mclaren cars, both in terms of MSRP and the cost of ownership. First year service is $400 vs $1300-1500, second year service is $1200-1400 vs. $3200-3500 and this goes on. Parts takes much longer order for Mclaren, especially coming from the UK. True, Mclaren do stock parts at the dealership level, but they usually have one set of each. So if you and another car need the same part at the same time, one of you will need to wait a long time. This is not to mention Mclaren's reliability is nowhere close to Porsche. Same thing goes for Ferrari.
People cut Ferrari a lot of slack because it's Ferrari, and they are built by Italians. Poor fit and finish, check. Bad paint job, of course! Passion and flare, lots of it!
#705
Drifting