I have not experienced anything you are stating. I own 3 AMG Vehicles currently, including the GTR. I have owned AMGs for over 20 years. Are you basing this on the 2005 SL you have listed in your signature or was this more recent? My 991.1 GT3 and GT3 RS have thrown more CELs than my current G63, E63 S, and GTR.

Abiazis

Congrats on your GT3.

What would your reference be if you had a 2014 or 2015 GT3 ?

Andrew,

I’m sorry but this thread is about the AMG GT R. Mine has 2,400 miles on it, including about 600 road course miles and nothing, not one thing, has ever gone wrong, let alone a CEL flashed at me. I had my local ‘race shop’ change the oil/filter at 2K miles even though the car stated I had another 145 days to go. It has been a dream to own.

Bish

The AMG GT R definitely innovative styling for Mercedes and sound is distinctive....luck of the draw on cars as some people swear by Volvos and others have nightmare stories about them.....no perfect cars is the only conclusion...

got it.

I lived in Germany for 6 years and travel to Europe almost weekly and have offices in Munich and Berlin. Only in the past 5 years when many taxis have switched to some sort of hybrid they were mostly Mercedes. They are reliable, but everything is relative. It’s debatable whatever order one thinks it should be with German cars but Audi is at the bottom followed by BMW in my opinion.

My GTR has been flawless compared to my GT3 and GT3 RS, but I do still value them the same.

Good to hear you have had good experience!!!

It first needs to be said that I don't wish anyone on here ill-will and bad luck with their vehicles. I wanted to chime into the conversation because this subject (German car reliability and how Porsche stacks up) has been a point of interest for me for a few years now. My observations are as follows:

- When one speaks of a reliability, are we actually talking about reliability or about durability? There is overlap because, as I would define it, durability is reliability under more extreme conditions (many miles or hard use like track or off road use)
- When reliability studies are conducted, are we talking about a) reliability b) reliability of ALL components, including those that won't matter whether or not get the car from point A to point B or c) customer satisfaction with "quality" (my seat is squeaky)
- Reliability surveys are often affected by certain major ticket items (think the Gen 1 991 GT3 engines). The rest of the car seemed pretty darn good but for one major mistake
- In some cases there seem to be discrepancies in quality and reliability between cars built in certain parts of the world (the American product vs. what is built and sold in Europe).
- My observations about the brands are as follows:
- Porsche have always made durable cars. In recent years, they have been in many cases reliable cars as well.
- Newer MB put a huge emphasis on technology (because people put technology and luxury together) and they have therefore become more complicated and thus are more prone to failure. I have also seen a slip in their overall quality (panel gaps, interior materials, longer-term reliability (durability) of certain components. I'm not sure how AMG specifically fits into this but I will make the observation that the quality really falls off in the cheaper segments.
- Old school (pre-1995) MBs were great on all fronts (relatively reliable, durable,and fantastic quality)
- Audis were pretty unreliable until less than a decade ago when something appears to have changed (less parts sharing with VW maybe)? They are probably the first or second most reliable brand and the quality is very good (fit, finish, and materials). I've never tracked one and don't know about what other people's experiences have been so I can't speak to that.

I'm going off a combination of speaking with owners/mechanics, the TUV ratings, Consumer Reports, and JD Power. The indices all use different criteria for their rating although the TUV has a longer-term approach and you can see longer-term reliability more easily.