aamersa

Your 2013 458 could not have steel brakes unless you changed them.

Tacet-Conundrum

Although I only read the first page...

...what happened to driving your GT3/RS with PCCBs at a D.E. or track day with Traction Control on? Isn't this a big no-no and can cause some premature damage to the already overpriced Carbon Brakes; which interestingly are the cheapest version of the exact model PCCBS from the factory. Is it true that all Carbon Ceramic brakes are Sourced and made by the same company that everyone from Porsche, Ferrari, Lamgorghini & et al get them from.

That's why it cost a fortune to run a Ferrari in their little Ferrari Cup thing because they have to change their Carbon Ceramics after so many races?

CAlexio

I didn't realize TC uses brake application to function, I thought that was stability control.

1198r

Dump the lift system. I have Gen 2 RS, no lift system and have no issues and in Dubai this place is FILLED with speed humps/ramps. You'll be saving weight too. Go with your instincts.

CAlexio

I live in San Francisco.. It's ab the most hilly urban terrain anyone would dare drive any car, let alone a gt3.. I high center and scrape the middle of my BMW wagon on some intersections.. The lift system is absolutely essential. Can't leave my street without it.. Still may have an issue with it. (Written while laughing condescendingly at comparison to Dubai speed bumps ). :-)

Tacet-Conundrum

I don't. Just those poor bastards who use it when running around a track have had bad days discovering they shouldn't combine the two when running in driving event.

And I have been in Calexico, California in the middle of summer. Its a bigger bummer than being in Bakersfield at the same time.

1198r

Having been to San Fran - I hear ya. Dubai is REALLY hilly too .... and just puts them in to "traffic calm".... on the most ridiculous roads.... in fact, they should put them on the motorway - ahem, sorry, freeway.... now that would sort the driving out....

Larry Cable

+1

Larry Cable

+1

Larry Cable

front axle life is a MUST
PCCB is either a nice or a must depending very subjectively on your personal preference, I would definitely order them ... others would pass

petec4s

Directly from Porsche " the material composition of the ceramic brake discs, especially the outer friction layer, has been completely revised. A significant higher proportion of ceramic in the carbon-fibre-reinforced ceramics has greatly increased the wear resistance of the new disc generation, even under extremely high loads". This is in addition to significant improvements in cooling which will apply equally to steel brakes. BOTH front and rear brake chambers on PCCB equiped 991 GT3's are forged aluminium whereas only the front chambers on the 997 were forged aluminium. So the larger brake rotor surface, improved materials and cooling make it a much more difficult decision for me since I had planned to stay with steel as I will be doing a few track days a year. Also, the replacement brake pads for PCCB's are less than the pads used on steel brakes so its no big deal to be conservative on replacing the pads well before any friction damage could be done to the rotors.

Tacet-Conundrum

I say just buy the Iron Brakes, then have someone who knows.what they are doing paint the Braking Calipers the proper shade of yellow.

Many, and I mean many of the Lexus LFA Leasers, since you have to lease the Lexus for the first two years you own it, have the option of what color they want the Calipers. I think the last figure I saw on THAT option 90% Yellow like you know who right?


BLING

Carrera GT

I think it has already been noted that the "normal" steels will be small enough to hide inside 19's, which avails the driver to both Hoosiers and aftermarket brakes like Movit or PFC (official Porsche Motorsport OEM for 991 Cup.) Tasty either way.
I don't know if the factory PCCBs will work without a strut swap just because I don't know where the calipers will be fitted for those 410mm front rotors.
I am thinking the GT3 is **** on a bull without access to Hoosiers.
If the $10K+ 410mm PCCBs self destruct on the track (as all previous generators have disgraced themselves) then what's the point other than imaginary sensations of unsprung weight (with 20 inch wheels and tires?)
I dunno. I'm tempted to go PCCBs because this will be an "arrove and drove" car for me and if I have to buy a whole bloody strut, I'll be tempted to "decontent" the car to aftermarket san PASM and perhaps later sans rear steer (if the front steer merits the cost to see what this car is like if the driver were to be the one in control of it.)

kencollinsjr

I think the best option if you can stomach the $9k option is to go with the PCCB option for all of the advantages already iterated. Porsche will soon be releasing an iron rotor that's equal in size to the PCCB rotor, so it will allow you to have a track set of iron rotors that are larger than the non-PCCB. You get the bling upside and option to use PCCB with an even larger rotor set to provide slightly better fade resistance in the track scenarios.

Mike in CA

My thoughts as well.....