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Old 01-29-2023, 11:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Xec
With all .1 GT3's having at least a year of warranty remaining and as discussed the lack of any documented G6 finger follower failures, I'd only be personally worried if I was a .1 RS owner. There's been engine failures in those and now all of them are outside of the warranty period.

I've been wanting to step up to the .1 RS but it's tough to justify getting out of my car with 2 years remaining on engine warranty into something with the same fundamental engine issues that has no warranty. I drive the crap out of my car right now completely worry-free. At this point, maybe a .2 GT3 makes more sense.
Seems like the .1 RS engine failures are one offs and not a pattern. I personally know of several .1 RS's with 50k+ of hard miles here in SoCal with no engine problems. Would love to be proved wrong or someone to show some data regarding the .1 RS engine also being compromised.
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.1 RS has first gear limited to 8800 RPM, which means in higher gears, the RPM is further limited. My understanding is that this attributes to why we don't see many RS failures versus the .1 GT3.
Old 01-30-2023, 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by cwazy1
.1 RS has first gear limited to 8800 RPM, which means in higher gears, the RPM is further limited. My understanding is that this attributes to why we don't see many RS failures versus the .1 GT3.
I would gladly have my GT3 limited to 8800 or even 8500 if that would save the engine. I don't often get to 9000 on upshifts, but on downshifts the PDK will do the downshift at 9000 if you hit the paddle before it ready for the lower gear.
Old 01-31-2023, 12:49 PM
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Does DeMan make a 4.5L for the .1? Probably just replace my engine with one of those if my engine blows out of warranty.
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Originally Posted by strettyend
Does DeMan make a 4.5L for the .1? Probably just replace my engine with one of those if my engine blows out of warranty.

Old 01-31-2023, 01:13 PM
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Old 01-31-2023, 02:27 PM
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Does DeMan do any top end machining when they upgrade to 4.5L? Looking at Neil's images, there is some machine work required on the top end to fit the new lifter design. This would still need to be completed by Deman if they're also going to bore and stroke it. I'm sure a DeMan upgrade will be 40-50k while a Dundon 'fix' using Neil's solution would be in the realm of 10-20k.
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Originally Posted by cwazy1
Does DeMan do any top end machining when they upgrade to 4.5L? Looking at Neil's images, there is some machine work required on the top end to fit the new lifter design. This would still need to be completed by Deman if they're also going to bore and stroke it. I'm sure a DeMan upgrade will be 40-50k while a Dundon 'fix' using Neil's solution would be in the realm of 10-20k.
Who knows. Lets ask the man @DeMan Motorsport .....
Old 01-31-2023, 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by strettyend
Does DeMan make a 4.5L for the .1? Probably just replace my engine with one of those if my engine blows out of warranty.
Dundon and PD ripping apart the MA175 initially was to R&D displacement options early on and that's when they saw the scoring.

Tough to believe those guys wouldn't have a "while you're down there" 4.0 or 4.1 displacement option.
Old 02-01-2023, 01:35 AM
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Even though .2 engines have more reported failures than G6 do (), is a .2 GT3 engine too incompatible to be a .1 swap option?
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Originally Posted by Rapter
I am curious …

the 4.0 engine was developed as a replacement to the 3.8 engine…and with so many 🤮 3.8 failures why not just start replacing all the engines with 4.0.

seems kinda dumb to ruin your company name and reputation with a garbage engine that causes so many people grief and Headache.

I wonder why not super-take-care of the customers and replace everything with the 4.0 engine and call it a day.

Porsche would look like industry hero!!!!

instead… replace engines with questionable reliability ?
That makes the most sense to me. I would think two 3.8's cost more than one 4L.
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Originally Posted by xBoost
That makes the most sense to me. I would think two 3.8's cost more than one 4L.
Their reusing the blocks on failed engines which are valued at about 20k, so that may not be correct.
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Originally Posted by Mthrice
Their reusing the blocks on failed engines which are valued at about 20k, so that may not be correct.
ok, now if its true that "fixed" 3.8 engines are failing and its not the FF in the head, can we then assume its machining issues with the used blocks of failed engines?
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I knew I shoulda kept my mouth shut
LOL, no biggy man, just convo and thoughts.


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