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Old 05-30-2021, 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by mooty
bc u need to look cool at Whole Foods and trader joes amongst a sea of Teslas
Nobody talks about driving anymore. And showing up at C&C once a month with your "one of a kind" PTS, 3 different colors of interior stitching order or exercising your rare RS 3 laps around an industrial park where your collection is stored is not driving in my book. Regardless of Covid, inventory shortages, chip shortages and the whatever who pays +$100k for some pretentious SUV, the direction of Porsche (and the world) is running contrary to the basic premise of why we like this in the first place. Driving. As the cars become more automated and less engaging to drive, there is some percentage of us that likes to shift the car, appreciates "lighter is better" and doesn't want a self driving car. Maybe it's about freedom...maybe not. The escalating price of a GT3 Touring is well deserved. The production is relatively limited, and regardless of it's monetary value, it's a 500 HP, NA, MT 911 without a wing. It's a great car to drive. And now, may be the last chance to purchase a relatively low mileage, unmolested car. Much of this is Tulips but Tourings', R's, 993 C2S are not...just to name a few.
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Old 05-30-2021, 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Suitcase
Nobody talks about driving anymore. And showing up at C&C once a month with your "one of a kind" PTS, 3 different colors of interior stitching order or exercising your rare RS 3 laps around an industrial park where your collection is stored is not driving in my book. Regardless of Covid, inventory shortages, chip shortages and the whatever who pays +$100k for some pretentious SUV, the direction of Porsche (and the world) is running contrary to the basic premise of why we like this in the first place. Driving. As the cars become more automated and less engaging to drive, there is some percentage of us that likes to shift the car, appreciates "lighter is better" and doesn't want a self driving car. Maybe it's about freedom...maybe not. The escalating price of a GT3 Touring is well deserved. The production is relatively limited, and regardless of it's monetary value, it's a 500 HP, NA, MT 911 without a wing. It's a great car to drive. And now, may be the last chance to purchase a relatively low mileage, unmolested car. Much of this is Tulips but Tourings', R's, 993 C2S are not...just to name a few.
Well said, it should be about the driving experience. Over the last week I have driven my ‘88 Carrera over a thousand miles. As for the Touring it is a great car to drive! I love mine and plan on keeping it for a long time, putting many miles on it.
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Old 05-30-2021, 02:11 PM
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Back to the proper topic.....

Today's MMR wholesale valuation (Manheim/dealer auctions) reveals this:


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Old 05-30-2021, 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Bossing
Back to the proper topic.....

Today's MMR wholesale valuation (Manheim/dealer auctions) reveals this:
Wowza! Those looks like 991.2 GT3 RS prices normally.

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Old 05-30-2021, 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Bossing
Back to the proper topic.....

Today's MMR wholesale valuation (Manheim/dealer auctions) reveals this:

wild…thanks for this. I keep debating whether or not to sell mine but if I sell, then what? Nothing interesting to drive below 200k still imo
Old 05-30-2021, 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by bulldog_YYC
This assumes our global overlords will continue to permit us to purchase gasoline
100% true but nothing anyone reading on this forum has anything to worry about. Our kids in the later stages of their lives... maybe.
Old 05-30-2021, 06:34 PM
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Last year around Feb/March I was haggling delivery mile full PPF GT3's with 175k MSRPs for 155k and the sellers were accepting. LOL at me for not buying.
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Originally Posted by 911dude41
Last year around Feb/March I was haggling delivery mile full PPF GT3's with 175k MSRPs for 155k and the sellers were accepting. LOL at me for not buying.
wait until winter. Prices will adjust.
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Originally Posted by Skullbussa
wait until winter. Prices will adjust.
Not sure if what we are seeing is seasonal. I’m sure it may adjust - but by how much is the question. Several factors at play.
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Originally Posted by mrhamamg
wild…thanks for this. I keep debating whether or not to sell mine but if I sell, then what? Nothing interesting to drive below 200k still imo
Wonder if they are counting touring prices here. That might inflate this number with regards to wing cars.
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Originally Posted by Bossing
Back to the proper topic.....

Today's MMR wholesale valuation (Manheim/dealer auctions) reveals this:

Wow and thank you for this. Am I reading it correctly- this is for 15K miles?

Best,

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Originally Posted by geoorlando
Wow and thank you for this. Am I reading it correctly- this is for 15K miles?
Best,
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That's correct..... here's valuation projection w/ 20k miles, Yellow, and West Coast.



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Wonder if they are counting touring prices here. That might inflate this number with regards to wing cars.
And all .2 GT3's are counted.... whether touring or not. One can see the higher trade values for the few manuals/tourings in the recent sales. PDK cars also command strong values. And keep in mind, this is dealer wholesale results.
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Originally Posted by Bossing
That's correct..... here's valuation projection w/ 20k miles, Yellow, and West Coast.




And all .2 GT3's are counted.... whether touring or not. One can see the higher trade values for the few manuals/tourings in the recent sales. PDK cars also command strong values. And keep in mind, this is dealer wholesale results.

Yes, I've heard it recommended that you should buy as many as you can, as an investment for a retirement fund. Everyone knows that used cars only go up in value over time!

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prices are here to stay while we're in this inflationary environment - chip shortage or not. Look at all the appreciating assets around you. 195k might be the same purchasing power as 180k a year ago.
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Originally Posted by Norcalgt3
prices are here to stay while we're in this inflationary environment - chip shortage or not. Look at all the appreciating assets around you. 195k might be the same purchasing power as 180k a year ago.
You remind me of a guy famous for a quote in 1929: Yale economist Irving Fisher was jubilant. “Stock prices have reached what looks like a permanently high plateau,” he rejoiced in the pages of the New York Times.


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