Ksdaoski

and yet still $36k over MSRP on a 4+ year old car....

rk-d

Truth. No FAL was a dealbreaker for me. No buckets or PCCBs were close to dealbreakers, but not like FAL.

Thescout13

I think your reasoning is why CPOs carry such a high value relatively speaking. When I got my 991.2, I really wanted a PTS with LWB and FAL, but CPO was important over all but FAL. I was lucky enough to find one with over two more years of CPO left that had PTS, LWB, and FAL. Luckily mine doesn’t display some of the issues you felt while driving the ones you did, so I count myself lucky. But let’s take that Greensboro one as an example. I know multiple folks here in NC who have all entertained it but after seeing it in person passed (only 1 or 2 who truly wanted a PTS or non-red so I take those anecdotes with a grain of salt) another 2 who cannot stand FCI (the dealer group that runs it because of terrible customer interaction) but more than those that passed because of FAL which is critical here in NC (6 in my local PCA/exotic club/run group alone that passed for this reason).

We had our local Oktoberfest this weekend and many were chatting how that must be the most undesirable CPO GT3 within 500 miles given the lack of FAL. For me FAL was always a personal choice because of past experience with $3-5k carbon fiber lips on factory lowered past cars, but I didn’t quite grasp how much people in certain parts of this country put a value on FAL until chatting with folks in the last 6 or so months.

Rod27

For 2019, many gt3rs’s still have factory 4 yr warranty until next summer/fall.

Rob Wolford

Here's a link to the PTS Signal Green car. I will be very curious to see how long this one lasts!!

https://rennlist.com/forums/market/1322526

ParadiseGT3

Some of these viewpoints are reasonable enough, and each prospective buyer is entitled to his own calculations. But once again, seems like personal perspectives may be being conflated with "facts" that will surely influence market trend in a major way, in your favor.

Out of warranty concerns apply to every special 911 in history that sell for astronomical prices. All of them. Most or all of which can't hold a candle to 991.2 reliability. 997 reliability isn't close, imo. (On a related note, 991.2 is a no-brainer pending addition to the collection of greatest 911's in history. Looks, performance, reliability. If we're not there already, time will tell, but couldn't be clearer from my perspective. If so, it's an easy argument that they're currently underpriced.)

Your sense of ride quality disparities likely has more to do with tire condition and pressures than suspension. My 991.2 handles as well as the day I got it 2+ years ago and 10,000+ unsympathetic miles later. Zero loosening. Straight line speed, identical. Lap times, vmin corner speeds, differential, you name it, identical or better as the driver has advanced with the platform. I bought mine CPO, it's been zero value to me so far. Not a single thing.

Weird clutch? Not an issue I've ever experienced or heard about from any owners.

never seen separating interior, but if at some point that happens, recondition or replace. This is factored into owning a timeless 911 over the long-term, not a cause for rapid depreciation.

Buzzes, rattles, yes. GT3. They come and go. It's the nature of the car.

GT3 doesn't exist in a vacuum, it's part of an automotive marketplace. So, per usual I'll ask 991.2 GT3/RS is currently overpriced relative to what? A prospective GT3 buyer would rather have for equal or less money, what exactly?

Palting

It's listed at about $5.5K over list, missing some features others would call deal breakers. Wonder if it will sell?

3-Pedals

I know all about the tire pressures believe me. I can tell rattles from rattles and I can tell a car that was driven through pot holes and bad road from a one where the owner would go around them and take some care. My GT3RS at 11,000 miles drive exactly the way you outline. No rattles, no noises, no buzzing, nothing lose in it. Yet I drove a car with 3,700 miles that was in horrible condition. Wear and tear in seat bolsters, scuff marks in the door that are very deep, doors rattle as you close them, speakers that buzz when you play music, the head unit (screen) that rattles and buzzes at various RPMs very loudly, etc. Its clear someone used it without any care. Yet from outside car has PPF on every panel, wheels have no scratches, no chips or other physical damage. From pictures it looks immaculate.

3-Pedals

It looks like the car bottomed out (or close to it) at some point. Some pretty decent marks on the front undercarriage if you look at the pictures in big screen. The plastic curved ducts that are ahead of the tires are bent/cracked. You really cant cause that without scraping everything else.

ParadiseGT3

yeah, roger that you don't want someone's absolute beater.

mad_max

Does anyone happen to know this car? I wanted sofas but considering there isn't a lot of Gaurds or Carmine red cars in the market, I might consider it as the prices drop....

https://www.meritpartners.com/featur...uring-991-2-2/

mad_max

New listing from Hennessy,

https://www.hennessyporsche.com/cert...cfbcfed2ec.htm

dinkman

that is a lovely spec, i love carmine but that price tho! still asking $50k over msrp still is crazy to me

raidentech.com

Almost bare bone 991.2 GT3 White for cheap at $145k 32k miles. Good for .2 track car.

https://www.cargurus.com/Cars/invent...34666/FEATURED

rk-d

I considered this car, but my wife nixed red.

I know people who've bought a few high end cars from Merit Partners and were very satisfied with their experience. Seems like a solid dealer.

Price is a bit on the high end for market value. For my car - I ended up paying $230k but with CPO til 2025 and full body PPF. Virtually identical spec, only in black. For me - 3 years of factory warranty/CPO and PPF was worth an easy $5k+ of value. I think what I paid is approximate market value given the added value of CPO/PPF but opinions vary. Someone is always getting a better deal.

Will values drop? Inevitable. Will they tank? I'm counting on the answer being No on the Tourings - if only due to their limited production and unique niche. As I've said before, I think there are people who flat out prefer the 991.2 Touring to the 992, for a variety of reasons.

Not too worried either way. I am in love with the car.