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I would say that it's worth adding $15k to that price, even if it means waiting, and getting a car with half the miles. The cars themselves are tanks but pricing for GT3s is mileage sensitive and it doesn't look like compelling enough of a discount to make up for the fact they almost have 40k miles on it. I think you should be able to find a similar 15k mile car as the GT silver one for less than $185k if you're patient. Here's a beautiful Sapphire blue car with PCCBs, 4-ways and FAL with less than 10k miles for $193k.
Dealer would likely happily take $190k meaning a higher mileage example of the same car, say 15k, would be around$185.
Agreed, Porsche Arlington (VA) had a silver 2018 for about $175k with 20k ish miles iirc, a few weeks ago. That car sat for at least a month in that price range.
Going into winter time I imagine prices will soften a bit more.
Do you think the dealership would accept a low ball offer of, say, 150-155k? The green one has been sitting for a long time. That would make that difference larger and potential make it worthwhile? Especially for someone who plans to keep it long term.
An offer is a low-ball offer only if you view it as a low-ball offer. No dealer is going to accept an offer if you frame it that way, and these car are enough of a commodity that they know more or less where they could sell to a different dealer.
That's not to say that $150k-$155k might not buy the car, but you need to to feel justified as to why that is the right amount (looking back historically, what discount have higher mileage cars traded.....what is the lowest price high mile are on the market??)
A lot of dealers still won't engage even if you present an offer well below ask but you feel is justified, but some will if they see that you've been thoughtful and will see if the GM has room.
If you show up and say, "I know this is a low-ball, but would you take $150k?" I suspect you have 0 chance.
Do you think the dealership would accept a low ball offer of, say, 150-155k? The green one has been sitting for a long time. That would make that difference larger and potential make it worthwhile? Especially for someone who plans to keep it long term.
It’s just so hard to understand market right now.
Here's a tip that works:
If you make a low offer, allow them to THINK you will get your financing through them and maybe buy a service contract. Most Porsche dealers sell Fidelity. So tell them up front
"I have great credit and may want to know if you sell a service contract"
That works.
Get the price down all the way to the end with a CONTRACT and price and deposit down, then negotiate rates and if you want a service contract, get it. Making sure you know the best pricing for both.
And then if you can, wait a year. The bottlenecks will leave, and the excess cash spent. Prices will drop.
Last edited by Upscale Audio; 10-13-2021 at 04:32 PM.
He said driving a Porsche makes him look poor. LoL
Classic aspirationally wealthy behaviour. It's quite funny - most of the ultra-wealthy people I know drive Lexus' or the such. I guess there's wanting to LOOK rich vs actually being rich and not caring about what you look like.
Do you think the dealership would accept a low ball offer of, say, 150-155k? The green one has been sitting for a long time. That would make that difference larger and potential make it worthwhile? Especially for someone who plans to keep it long term.
It’s just so hard to understand market right now.
The listing doesnt show the build- looks like PTS / LWBS but not much else, and 37K miles. No service records. Track use?. Overrev report? Lots of unknowns for $160K especially considering how many other GT3’s are out there.
What is your objective? If its buy the least expensive GT3 out there for the purposes of beating on it at the track- then the lowest cost of entry makes sense and the build is relatively unimportant. But if ifs a keeper, then the extra $25K to thet “the one” in your color, interior, PCCBs, < 10K miles, service history, etc spread out over 5+ yrs and then getting significantly more in the back end when you sell it in 2027 will be worth it.
Like you said, that GT3 has been sitting there for awhile. If it was such a “deal” it would be gone- look at all the $180-200++K manual GT3’s sold recently on BAT. Pcarmarket, etc. Clearly price is not the primary factor for most GT3 buyers. This is an entirely discretionary purchase and you shouldn’t settle when spending this kind of $-
I remember seeing this car at San Francisco Sports Cars back in 2016. Looks like the current owner hasn’t driven it much since then and at that asking price of $290k he’ll pretty much break even from what he originally paid.
10-13-2021, 10:06 AM
