GT car / Salesman - Shiraaz Sookralli - Champion Porsche's VP of Marketing
09-16-2018, 10:10 PM
#1127
Rennlist Member
most criminals aren’t first time offenders. 77% of criminals are repeat offenders, so in some form of fashion there should have been some indicators of the suspect’s personal behavior. Most employers conduct background checks, credit checks and drug tests for this reason. So statistically, there should have been some background information that should have stood out to Champion Porsche on the suspect. On that aspect alone, they failed.
More speculation....while your speculation might have statistical support (albeit flawed or manipulated statistics), it is still only speculation.
Do you know that Champion did not perform a background check? And if they did not, do you know if Sookrali had some criminal history that would have been revealed had a background check been performed? I'm going to assume that the answers to both of these questions are that you don't know = speculation.
09-16-2018, 10:12 PM
#1128
Rennlist Member
60 percent of the time, it works every time......
More speculation....while your speculation might have statistical support (albeit flawed or manipulated statistics), it is still only speculation.
Do you know that Champion did not perform a background check? And if they did not, do you know if Sookrali had some criminal history that would have been revealed had a background check been performed. I'm going to assume that the answers to both of these questions are that you don't know = speculation.
More speculation....while your speculation might have statistical support (albeit flawed or manipulated statistics), it is still only speculation.
Do you know that Champion did not perform a background check? And if they did not, do you know if Sookrali had some criminal history that would have been revealed had a background check been performed. I'm going to assume that the answers to both of these questions are that you don't know = speculation.
these are facts, not speculation.
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09-16-2018, 10:23 PM
#1131
Rennlist Member
salesman stole money - dealer has to repay customer. End of story. Its not rocket science, nor is it new-never-seen-before-happenings. It just so happened to a popular dealer and a popular brand.
09-16-2018, 10:24 PM
#1132
Race Director
Hey Randy...long time!....hope you get the car. Yeah whatever happened with Eddie RPW ....also whatever happened with Rad and his hit and run ordeal?
09-16-2018, 10:36 PM
#1133
Rennlist Member
Couldnt disagree more. FBI statistics are not facts. I hope you are never indicted by the feds and have to accept everything the FBI says as pure fact (seriously I dont wish an indictment upon anyone). But, frankly, I think you are arguing with the wrong person. Champion is on the hook for the deposits because he was their employee. An employer is liable for the acts of the employee while the employee is acting within the scope of his employment (respondeat superior). But, you seem to be trying to impart some further/extra liability upon Champion. Not sure why.
salesman stole money - dealer has to repay customer. End of story. Its not rocket science, nor is it new-never-seen-before-happenings. It just so happened to a popular dealer and a popular brand.
salesman stole money - dealer has to repay customer. End of story. Its not rocket science, nor is it new-never-seen-before-happenings. It just so happened to a popular dealer and a popular brand.
Now, I’m not trying to increase or imply liability on Champion. But since you are accusing me of speculating I might as well do some of that. I will just state they probably could’ve done more screening since he was employed there.... especially as an executive (which a VP is in my mind, their website words not mine). The more responsibility a person has, the greater vetting must be.
09-16-2018, 10:38 PM
#1134
Sooner or later this is what will happen. So easy to wire a deposit. I myself am guilty. Thats one of the reasons I give a CC for my deposit.
We are so trusting of people that when an allocation is available, we are like we won the jackpot.
No difference than a ponzi scheme. I am sure those people who got their car not to their spec probably got the cars of somebody else.
I cant wait to hear when he is caught and goes to jail.
What I am waiting on is how PCNA is going to do about it, they can deny it but they allowed this BS about flipping cars and they are part to blame.
We are so trusting of people that when an allocation is available, we are like we won the jackpot.
No difference than a ponzi scheme. I am sure those people who got their car not to their spec probably got the cars of somebody else.
I cant wait to hear when he is caught and goes to jail.
What I am waiting on is how PCNA is going to do about it, they can deny it but they allowed this BS about flipping cars and they are part to blame.
09-16-2018, 10:48 PM
#1135
Nah...needs another whole secret family with another half dozen kids to make it really prime material. A single mistress or GF would be bush league.
09-16-2018, 10:51 PM
#1136
most criminals aren’t first time offenders. 77% of criminals are repeat offenders, so in some form of fashion there should have been some indicators of the suspect’s personal behavior. Most employers conduct background checks, credit checks and drug tests for this reason. So statistically, there should have been some background information that should have stood out to Champion Porsche on the suspect. On that aspect alone, they failed.
09-16-2018, 11:07 PM
#1137
Bingo!
And I guess our dear friend "911therapy" also missed the part about Shiraaz and the 911r lawsuit. No red flags there.
And I guess our dear friend "911therapy" also missed the part about Shiraaz and the 911r lawsuit. No red flags there.
Last edited by Diablo Dude; 09-16-2018 at 11:08 PM. Reason: Typo
09-16-2018, 11:09 PM
#1138
Rennlist Member
uhh hate to break it to you, but they are facts. It’s simple arithmetic, not rocket science to compute the number of times a suspect has been arrested previously. Numbers are objective, period.
Now, I’m not trying to increase or imply liability on Champion. But since you are accusing me of speculating I might as well do some of that. I will just state they probably could’ve done more screening since he was employed there.... especially as an executive (which a VP is in my mind, their website words not mine). The more responsibility a person has, the greater vetting must be.
And like I said before, you do not know if Champion did in fact perform a background check and nothing showed up.....thats the key fact, based on your hypothetical. My point is your level of knowledge of what champion did or didnt do is speculation on your part. Why speculate? and why does it matter? Champion owes the refunds and they ought to pony up. And most likely will. where else does this have to go?
not sure why I am in this debate...did it to myself I suppose...
09-16-2018, 11:12 PM
#1139
Rennlist Member
09-16-2018, 11:17 PM
#1140
Rennlist Member
If you are, dont dare google your first and last name under a criminal history search......
Cmon guys, you are too intelligent to rely on gossip and speculation. Especially when it doesnt matter. To anyone.