dark knight

I never bought Italian, their toys break, if I wasn't a loyalist I would have left, notice how if Ferrari is truly doing business with this model, it hasn't hurt brand image but actually helped it. Those who leave for Ferrari will help us by freeing up allocations (jK)
Those who worry about a Jurys sympathy, need to consider, trial is everyones last resort, how little does a few letters a lawsuit filing fee cost, and theres even more hard core legal maneuvers, I hope the OP gets it sorted out, I might be so pissed I wouldn't want to buy anything from them

Catorce

Right now you're my hero. I'm pretty fed up with the games Porsche plays as well. I wonder if they are aware of the frustration.

Good luck with the Ferraris, I may join you.

mcsmcs1

All at MSRP too?

fuddman

From the aggrieved:

Update-
I have spoken with the owner Bob this morning and the GM Paul multiple times in the last few days. It doesn't appear that I will have a resolution to this over night but they are in communication with me and it appears the are trying to make this right.

FORENN

Based on this and your other posts in this thread, I'm curious as to what your relationship is with Porsche of the main line, if any.

Yippiekiaye

Ferrari is not allowed to sell “new” cars above msrp.

As as far as the op taking out an ad in the New York Times, I can see it now. The sympathy from the general public will roll in. I mean people will be sending in donations for the op to buy his 300k car.

look- the dealership sucks. Op is getting screwed but this is a first world problem. No one other than Porsche enthusiast care that some rich dude can’t buy a 1/3 or a million dollar car without paying extra. Let’s keep some perspective here.

did i mention the dealership sucks?

fuddman

Never set foot on their property. Never spoken to anyone associated with the company.

mooty

nice, glad we dont do business together. we have 10-20MM deals over one phone call. i know what i said, and it's my reputation.... no wonder this country has so many law suits.

mooty

the italian is getting kind of interesting.. especially redheads

i applaud you with respect, big *****.

on contract, yes.... we have had discussion with inhouse counsel in past. contract INTERPRETATION is art. you can cheat in front of your wife and explain your way through it.... well may be not you.... but....

sdq7

Porsche is now doing what Ferrari did for years. I have gone through that with them and it was just as bad. The only reason they are making it easier right now is that the 488 demand is low. I was offered one as well but after years of getting jerked around I did not take the offer. They cant't mark it up so they play games around it. One dealer suggested I "sponsor" their race team for 30k to get an allocation. Supply and demand is the issue and as long as people pay the markup they will get it. Why is this such a confusing issue?

dark knight

why do people keep saying the "jury" would be unsympathetic, how about bench trial, and isn't the job of a lawyer to make an unsympathetic person appear wonderful, hell Ive seen them make a large aggressive teenaged attacker look like a toddler on the news, they'd tell the jury how hard you worked to pay for your one passion in life, while donating to the humane society and then this unscrupulous corporation screws you out of your car with a lowball trade and then takes aways your new car to sell it to a 0.1 percenter NFL player who beats his wife and dog, you're so stressed out your wife will sue for " loss of consortium" I mean seriously, do you guys give up so easily? how'd you earn the money for this car if you arent a person who fights when the chips are down, you ever see that movie Lone Survivor, those dudes never gave up, they just rubbed some dirt on their wounds and kept fighting.

shapiroeric

One big thing that was failed to be mentioned about Ferrari.....dealers canā€™t just sell to anyone. New cars only sold to customers in their territory or customers outside any dealers territory. A NY dealer canā€™t sell a new car to someone who lives in Miami....and the right of first refusal they throw in. Dealer has it for a year or you can forget about ever getting a new Fcar again. Thereā€™s always little things....

nuvolari612

Dealers can sell to anyone in a territory that there is no dealer.

Being in St Louis all F dealers can sell me. For warranty & service they offer a territory from Dallas Chicago Detroit Atlanta pick up and delivery for free.

Being the local FCA President - the dealer sponsors track days in our area brings in test dive cars all no charge. Ferrari is struggling with the 488 but the dealers receive 50+ car a year so it's a whole different experience.

They have a point system age wealth Tifosi track schools how many F cars the guys who race in the Challenge series get whatever they want. In order to get sought after allocations they send applicants to FNA and apply the point system. Ferrari is a life style for most owners F1 is as good as it gets.

If it were not for RL I would not own a Porsche - the dealers and Porsche itself are of little interest. After trying to work with the local Porsche it's useless which is why my RS is for sale and CGT most likely next.

Ferrari's don't break any more than any other car - all Lamborghini's owners aren't posers you guys need to get out more I am not going to beg Porsche no offense but IMO they aren't that special to warrant the brain damage to buy one. CJ taking over the Chicago dealer makes Mclaren appealing again he's the kind of guy car people want to do business with vs the guys who make buying miserable.

dark knight

Ive always thought it would be worth it to own a CGT as its an icon and it sounds so crazy loud, it would be one of the best and last analog car experiences. Am I wrong?

jmg3

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