968 Supercharger Kit Development
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PS: we are going to try to continue to use the Heavy Duty belt tensioning turnbuckle that you have now (it tightens the belt for the AC and alternator). That means it will now also tighten the belt for the supercharger.
Again, fewer parts = lower cost and easier installation.
We try to be elegant and streamlined in our designs. The best designs are as simple as possible yet meet all design goals.
Again, fewer parts = lower cost and easier installation.
We try to be elegant and streamlined in our designs. The best designs are as simple as possible yet meet all design goals.
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go info, Thanks Carl.
A question I have is:
in the past with previous S/C intallations, the issue of belt wrap on the charger pulley VS. belt slip has created some interesting solutions, but all of which tend to add a substatnial load on the other shared belt driven accessories; even when using an "idler" pulley for the charger.
what are your thoughts on the additional belt load/tension required as to the longevity of the a/c compressor and/or alternator??? nether of which are cheap to repair/replace VS. an additional belt and pulley to drive the charger off the crank?
Thanks
A question I have is:
in the past with previous S/C intallations, the issue of belt wrap on the charger pulley VS. belt slip has created some interesting solutions, but all of which tend to add a substatnial load on the other shared belt driven accessories; even when using an "idler" pulley for the charger.
what are your thoughts on the additional belt load/tension required as to the longevity of the a/c compressor and/or alternator??? nether of which are cheap to repair/replace VS. an additional belt and pulley to drive the charger off the crank?
Thanks
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Those are good points, Larry.
In this case, we are using the AC belt, and the AC compressor is already requiring about 20 HP to operate... so we know the bearings on the AC and the alternator are already designed for that belt load.
We feel that the small supercharger we are using will not add substantially to the belt tension nor bearing load, as the belt tension the AC and alternator require right now are already quite high and high enough for us.
But - if this turns out not to be the case, we will have to make a separate special crank pulley for the 968. I am trying not to do that if I can because of cost and packaging requirements. There is so little room at the nose of the crank and behind the radiator that if I add another belt sheeve, the SC will have to move forward by that amount and then the hood will no longer close.
So, we will try mixing it into the serpantine system first and see what happens.
In this case, we are using the AC belt, and the AC compressor is already requiring about 20 HP to operate... so we know the bearings on the AC and the alternator are already designed for that belt load.
We feel that the small supercharger we are using will not add substantially to the belt tension nor bearing load, as the belt tension the AC and alternator require right now are already quite high and high enough for us.
But - if this turns out not to be the case, we will have to make a separate special crank pulley for the 968. I am trying not to do that if I can because of cost and packaging requirements. There is so little room at the nose of the crank and behind the radiator that if I add another belt sheeve, the SC will have to move forward by that amount and then the hood will no longer close.
So, we will try mixing it into the serpantine system first and see what happens.
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This is very exciting to say the least.
I have trouble even imagining where you can fit the SC, but that's why there are clever developers like you out there. Just out of curiosity, does your current design retain power steering hardware?
Regards,
Chris
I have trouble even imagining where you can fit the SC, but that's why there are clever developers like you out there. Just out of curiosity, does your current design retain power steering hardware?
Regards,
Chris
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Yes. The power steering pump and hardware and belt are all unchanged. In the current design, the AC and alternator belt and hardware are also unchanged.
If I get to a spot where a photograph makes sense, I'll post a picture of the setup. That may take me to week's end. Be advised: if I post a partial-installation protoype photo, you will not see the cold air supply or the PCV mods yet.
If I get to a spot where a photograph makes sense, I'll post a picture of the setup. That may take me to week's end. Be advised: if I post a partial-installation protoype photo, you will not see the cold air supply or the PCV mods yet.
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For some more clearance at the crank pulley, you could make a slim fan kit for us. Those fans are a ~25 year old design, I'm sure you could make something that works better and takes less space. Just a thought, hoping it doesn't become necessary.
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Or fit a fan in front of the rad instead of behind....But this is only going to drive the costs up.....
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I'm looking forward to your kit. I'm definately interested, if I buy it, I would be keeping my 968 forever.
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I dont see a problem. No interference at all. Everything I am doing (so far) is in front of the motor and down.
I have the 968 shop manuals, and we are looking for a good schematic of the crankcase ventilation system. I think the page must be missing from my book set - anybody got a page number for me or a good copy?
When we supercharge a car that has never been boosted, we always need to address the crankcase venting and usually re-route it.
I have the 968 shop manuals, and we are looking for a good schematic of the crankcase ventilation system. I think the page must be missing from my book set - anybody got a page number for me or a good copy?
When we supercharge a car that has never been boosted, we always need to address the crankcase venting and usually re-route it.