Great AMERICAN 964s for sale
#5716
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Most of my cars end up costing me an average of $8,000 - $10,000 in rehab before i take to market and i don't buy beaters, these are good acceptable cars when i buy them, and even after me spending that kind of money on them to bring them to clean above average driver quality status they still need little stuff done here and there and aren't perfect.
#5719
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Like I said, the car has been for sale in Southern California by the same seller for a long time... I wonder why?
#5720
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Here is my take on all of this. I help a lot of people with these cars. I have watched several local flippers flip these cars since values have gone up. Some do it right but most do it cheap. I hate to see the cheap fixes but a customer wants a quick Earl Scheib paint job to make it look pretty why should you turn down their money. It should be apparent that the work was done but people don't educate themselves and just look at the shinny paint and say wow. Although so many get taken by unscrupulous sellers and unfortunately it taints the industry for those who are more reputable. If the work is well documented and records retained it is one thing but most don't disclose that the paintwork was only 6 months old and not 6 years old and make no mention of it saying "to the best of my knowledge". Far too many of the flippers I meet are strictly in it for the quick buck and will do just about anything to make a sale. Present company excluded.
#5721
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Here is my take on all of this. I help a lot of people with these cars. I have watched several local flippers flip these cars since values have gone up. Some do it right but most do it cheap. I hate to see the cheap fixes but a customer wants a quick Earl Scheib paint job to make it look pretty why should you turn down their money. It should be apparent that the work was done but people don't educate themselves and just look at the shinny paint and say wow. Although so many get taken by unscrupulous sellers and unfortunately it taints the industry for those who are more reputable. If the work is well documented and records retained it is one thing but most don't disclose that the paintwork was only 6 months old and not 6 years old and make no mention of it saying "to the best of my knowledge". Far too many of the flippers I meet are strictly in it for the quick buck and will do just about anything to make a sale. Present company excluded.
#5722
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Agreed, there are a couple of absolute turds being flipped rite now that were offered to me and i turned down, looks like one got sold to a guy on ebay actually 2 weeks ago and now he is trying to get out of it and has it on auto trader. in the end the cheap cars end up costing the most money- I'll tell you what though, that black C2 that just didn't sell on BAT is probably a great value for $50,000, if the seller wasn't so clueless or vague (did you see that paint meter video) he would have gotten way more money for it even with the "buyer beware" thread about it.
#5723
Tells you a ton about what people thought about him as a seller that even with my buyer beware thread it still got bid to nearly $50k and was still RNM. It did exactly what I expected since he carried himself in the same clueless, nonchalant manner in which he delt with me and wasted my Fing time and money. That dude is a world class A hole.
@Tarek307 I’m sure he’s had lots of people contacting him after the RNM. If you could get that car for $50k, clean it up then run it on BAT as well as you have with other cars I’m sure you could make some money. But, I know he wants at least $55k. PM me if you want his contact info. I think you’d get a kick out of talking to him 😆
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Yet he calls the car “fabulous” and I’m a whacko
Tells you a ton about what people thought about him as a seller that even with my buyer beware thread it still got bid to nearly $50k and was still RNM. It did exactly what I expected since he carried himself in the same clueless, nonchalant manner in which he delt with me and wasted my Fing time and money. That dude is a world class A hole.
@Tarek307 I’m sure he’s had lots of people contacting him after the RNM. If you could get that car for $50k, clean it up then run it on BAT as well as you have with other cars I’m sure you could make some money. But, I know he wants at least $55k. PM me if you want his contact info. I think you’d get a kick out of talking to him
Tells you a ton about what people thought about him as a seller that even with my buyer beware thread it still got bid to nearly $50k and was still RNM. It did exactly what I expected since he carried himself in the same clueless, nonchalant manner in which he delt with me and wasted my Fing time and money. That dude is a world class A hole.
@Tarek307 I’m sure he’s had lots of people contacting him after the RNM. If you could get that car for $50k, clean it up then run it on BAT as well as you have with other cars I’m sure you could make some money. But, I know he wants at least $55k. PM me if you want his contact info. I think you’d get a kick out of talking to him
He really had a chance, a good chance to bounce back from your thread and prove you wrong especially with the other commenters who saw the car, but he didn't , he still tried the "as to my knowledge" and then made that ridiculous paint meter video, i swear it looked like he was taking the pulse of patient not the measurements of the paint lol. Thx for the offer of the guys contact info, but the car is now jaded, vin number all over the internet and doubt surrounding the seller..not something i'd want to have to overcome when reselling it- I do think who ever gets it for 50-55 even will still be getting a deal (As long as there isn't major bondo on the car, which we can't be sure of since he never posted proper paint meter readings) by now i'd think a deal should be in progress from all the BAT exposure he got
#5725
He really had a chance, a good chance to bounce back from your thread and prove you wrong especially with the other commenters who saw the car, but he didn't , he still tried the "as to my knowledge" and then made that ridiculous paint meter video, i swear it looked like he was taking the pulse of patient not the measurements of the paint lol. Thx for the offer of the guys contact info, but the car is now jaded, vin number all over the internet and doubt surrounding the seller..not something i'd want to have to overcome when reselling it- I do think who ever gets it for 50-55 even will still be getting a deal (As long as there isn't major bondo on the car, which we can't be sure of since he never posted proper paint meter readings) by now i'd think a deal should be in progress from all the BAT exposure he got
#5726
Three Wheelin'
Couple of new ones on PP...
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsc...4-c2-mint.html
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsc...pe-manual.html
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsc...4-c2-mint.html
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsc...pe-manual.html
#5727
Couple of new ones on PP...
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsc...4-c2-mint.html
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsc...pe-manual.html
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsc...4-c2-mint.html
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsc...pe-manual.html
As an aside, I have a lead on a ROW slate gray car with black interior and factory sports seats. Japanese. 56k miles. 100% original paint/metered. 17" Cup 1s... $80k. Let me know if you're interested.
My slate gray car won't be for sale for at least 6-12 months, if at all, so just passing this on for a friend.