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Old 02-20-2024, 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by RapidGT
Looked over the Amazon Green car and looks like a great example. Going off mainly the BaT listing as the car looks basically the same as it does on Hemmings. If I were in the market for a C2 would be on this one. Think if the car is what I think it is it’s worth the ask as good examples are hard to come by and it’s worth paying up for a good sorted one. Also found this listing when Nathan Merz sold it previously.

https://cvluxurycars.com/1992-porsch...ust-56k-miles/
it does seem to be a good one and if it’s in the same condition (or close to) when Nathan sold it, then it should be solid.

Gotta disagree on the fair price part though. It sold during the market peak for 136k, I can’t see any reason that in a market which has dropped by at least 10-15%, it would rate a 20% increase in value. Amazon green is a great color but it isn’t all that rare compared to other non-boring ones and the mileage isn’t collector mileage either at 61k miles. IMO this is probably worth about what they paid for it 135-140k and that is only because it’s Amazon green.
Old 02-20-2024, 09:55 PM
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Originally Posted by darylbowden
it does seem to be a good one and if it’s in the same condition (or close to) when Nathan sold it, then it should be solid.

Gotta disagree on the fair price part though. It sold during the market peak for 136k, I can’t see any reason that in a market which has dropped by at least 10-15%, it would rate a 20% increase in value. Amazon green is a great color but it isn’t all that rare compared to other non-boring ones and the mileage isn’t collector mileage either at 61k miles. IMO this is probably worth about what they paid for it 135-140k and that is only because it’s Amazon green.
There hasn’t been a lot of publicity sold cars that I would consider comparable as far as condition and history. This would be the piece that I would personally put the highest value on. Doesn’t appear to have any bad stories which with 964’s are far and few between. Hopefully with all the work done within the last 5 years the car doesn’t need a ton. Some of these cars require a laundry list of things and thousands to get them fully sorted. Do I think it is worth $165k? Hard to say, but think it is worth $150k maybe a bit more. Believe it is worth more than what it did on BaT as I know there have been worse cars sold for that or close to it.

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Old 02-20-2024, 11:44 PM
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Sold Feb 22. Prices still seemed to climb for a year after that and even now it seems less like the prices have dipped and more like fewer going for sale. Most owners just sit on the cars instead of taking a loss.

anyway - pretty car.
Old 02-21-2024, 10:04 AM
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All I can say is this is a twin to my car optioned identically and same miles, although mine is a 93. I guess chopping the roof off and changing the interior to black wasn't a wise choice but too late now and I prefer the black interior. I already have an Amazon Cashmere car so 2 was too much.

If Nathan felt this was a worthy car I must assume all things being the same it is worth every penny if not more these days. I haven't seen a no stories coupe in quite some time both private and auction sale. Very few trade hands these days and hopefully most will keep them or prices will shy them away from the chopping block. We need to start a go fund me page for the endangered 964 coupe which will soon become a thing of the past at this rate.

BTW Amazon is a great color when maintained properly one of my favorites. They did paint a good number in Amazon and most had Cashmere interior. But very few this nice.
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Old 02-21-2024, 10:28 AM
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So what does eveyone think of the Summer Yellow Cab to Coupe hammering at $70K? I think that bodes well for those of us with coupes.
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Originally Posted by Carrera51
So what does eveyone think of the Summer Yellow Cab to Coupe hammering at $70K? I think that bodes well for those of us with coupes.
Considering that they used a roof from a Gbody which is constructed differently than a 964 I would say we are OK. At $73,500 all in this is what decent coupes were selling for pre covid.
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I was thinking that it makes our true coupes worth more. I didn't think that car would bring that much since no matter how well it was done, it's still not a factory coupe.

Is the only difference the little vents just above the rear window?
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Originally Posted by Carrera51
I was thinking that it makes our true coupes worth more. I didn't think that car would bring that much since no matter how well it was done, it's still not a factory coupe.

Is the only difference the little vents just above the rear window?
As I recall the 964 used different alloys and there is an additional front brace just behind the windshield along the sides below the rails and down the back window making it far stiffer and sturdier in a roll over or crash. The reasoning for some of the added weight to the 964. They did a nice job installing it but they used the wrong parts IMO. It would have cost considerably more to do it properly using 964 parts. I also didn't get a feel if they had removed the headliner or not. That in itself is a ton of work and difficult to get right.
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Old 02-21-2024, 09:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Carrera51
So what does eveyone think of the Summer Yellow Cab to Coupe hammering at $70K? I think that bodes well for those of us with coupes.
I think it might have even been a good deal. It's absolutely not a collector but it shows what we've been talking about for a while. There's a lot of value in having a car like this that you can actually drive somewhat guilt-free. So you have collector cars on one side and hotrods+drivers on the other - both of them worth money for different reasons and appeal to different buyers - which there seems to be plenty of. I don't think you can say that drivers quality cars and low-mile collector cars are on opposite ends of a scale - it's more like there are just 2 different scales
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Old 02-22-2024, 08:24 AM
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Originally Posted by jeff33702
I think it might have even been a good deal. It's absolutely not a collector but it shows what we've been talking about for a while. There's a lot of value in having a car like this that you can actually drive somewhat guilt-free. So you have collector cars on one side and hotrods+drivers on the other - both of them worth money for different reasons and appeal to different buyers - which there seems to be plenty of. I don't think you can say that drivers quality cars and low-mile collector cars are on opposite ends of a scale - it's more like there are just 2 different scales
Scales. Everything is out of balance. No other 911 market has gone from such lows to highs and division between stock and modified. I was serious considering doing something similar a while back but cabs are no longer inexpensive. In theory there should be far more cabs available than coupes. Although a bit more than half the number of coupes were made in cab form more cabs came to the US than coupes and I never saw the number of cabs parted out like we did Coupes. Maybe there will be a market for converted cabs in the future? Just so long as we don't chop up targas they are quite scarce.
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Originally Posted by cobalt
Just so long as we don't chop up targas they are quite scarce.
Targa’s I think are under appreciated. Some tend to forget there was even a Targa during the 964 generation. Not a lot made and it’s the last to use the traditional Targa bar up until the 991 brought it back. On the newer models this version has been quite desirable.
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Targas are coming into their own now it seems. I am super surprised you don't see many hardtop conversions as it seems to be the way to go. There's also the Strosek? (maybe) hardtop that looked decent and transforms the car. You do see a bunch of hardtop conversions to verts, but that's just odd.
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Originally Posted by RapidGT
Targa’s I think are under appreciated. Some tend to forget there was even a Targa during the 964 generation. Not a lot made and it’s the last to use the traditional Targa bar up until the 991 brought it back. On the newer models this version has been quite desirable.
So true. Although I have several friends with 964 targas, one is now a singer. Sadly many targas seem to be tip with far fewer made than the coupes and cabs. I had an early 90 which is quite rare with the old SS roll bar and vents still. Another I should have kept.

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Old 02-25-2024, 01:07 AM
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what value would you guys put on
C4 Cab
Black with Grey Interior
Well Documented no accident no paintwork
Very Good Condition but not concourse.
Manual
45k Miles
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Super clean, well-preserved totally stock ‘91 C2 at Autokennel.

https://autokennel.com/featured_vehi...-head-gaskets/
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