VW/Audi 07K (2.5L 20V I5) Swap Thread
05-01-2018, 10:41 PM
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Any thoughts on making it use a 240mm flywheel to utilize the larger pressure plates from non-I4 VAG engines (I5, V6tt, V8)? This would possibly complicate finding a 240mm clutch disc that has the correct spline for the torque tube. 240mm clutch conversion is pretty common for 1.8T's so there are several options for 240mm 6-bolt flywheels. Another benefit is for people that would rant to run an 8-bolt forged TTRS crank instead of a forged 6-bolt crank from an early car. I'm not sure if there are any 8-bolt 228mm flywheels. The other option is to machine extra bolts to the 6-bolt crank/flywheel as Jim Green and others have done.
I'm amazed at the support I'm getting from Quick Time and SPEC on this project...
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05-01-2018, 10:45 PM
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05-02-2018, 12:50 AM
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No, was thinking 07k but you've gone further down the route of oil pan clearance so you know that better.
Recently in conversations with Hank, in retrospect he wishes he had gone the route of mounting vertically (like VR6 swaps do, but that's driven by the OE adapter) and keeping the stock VW pan and changing the crossmember instead.
I was kind of thinking the same with my swap and doing a tubular crossmember...but I haven't mocked anything up for that to see if that would even work without really screwing up the steering rack angles since I imagine the rack would need to move down.
Recently in conversations with Hank, in retrospect he wishes he had gone the route of mounting vertically (like VR6 swaps do, but that's driven by the OE adapter) and keeping the stock VW pan and changing the crossmember instead.
I was kind of thinking the same with my swap and doing a tubular crossmember...but I haven't mocked anything up for that to see if that would even work without really screwing up the steering rack angles since I imagine the rack would need to move down.
05-02-2018, 12:51 AM
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05-02-2018, 12:55 AM
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Looking more now, we might need the engine angle anyways to have the intake manifold clear the brake booster/master cylinder. So probably disregard my comments on 0deg engine angle.
05-02-2018, 04:19 AM
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To avoid that you could pull out the OEM brake stuff and put in a pedal box. Might be easier that way?
05-02-2018, 06:42 AM
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No, was thinking 07k but you've gone further down the route of oil pan clearance so you know that better.
Recently in conversations with Hank, in retrospect he wishes he had gone the route of mounting vertically (like VR6 swaps do, but that's driven by the OE adapter) and keeping the stock VW pan and changing the crossmember instead.
I was kind of thinking the same with my swap and doing a tubular crossmember...but I haven't mocked anything up for that to see if that would even work without really screwing up the steering rack angles since I imagine the rack would need to move down.
Recently in conversations with Hank, in retrospect he wishes he had gone the route of mounting vertically (like VR6 swaps do, but that's driven by the OE adapter) and keeping the stock VW pan and changing the crossmember instead.
I was kind of thinking the same with my swap and doing a tubular crossmember...but I haven't mocked anything up for that to see if that would even work without really screwing up the steering rack angles since I imagine the rack would need to move down.
05-02-2018, 07:01 AM
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05-02-2018, 09:29 AM
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I think clocking the engine side of the bellhousing would be better than adding a second set of holes on the torque tube interface since then we can keep the starter and TOB mounted in the correct locations / orientations. I’ll have to look closer at how I’m going to mount the starter in both clockings though.
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05-02-2018, 10:45 AM
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What is everyone planning on doing for motor mounts?
I'm going to attempt to use a couple of mounting holes towards the front of the 07k and somehow incorperate that into the 944 mounts.
I'm going to attempt to use a couple of mounting holes towards the front of the 07k and somehow incorperate that into the 944 mounts.
05-02-2018, 10:54 AM
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If you want to have a go at it, check out the mounts that Iroz makes. I think their approach of using a standoff manifold block on the driver side will work well because the accessories get in the way of attaching anywhere else on that side of the engine block.
05-02-2018, 11:12 AM
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I haven't designed my motor mounts yet... the progression I'm working is: bellhousing, oil pan, motor mounts (potentially integrated into or bolted onto a tubular cross member), intake manifold, turbo plumbing. All of these things affect the others, so I'm trying not to work myself into a corner.
If you want to have a go at it, check out the mounts that Iroz makes. I think their approach of using a standoff manifold block on the driver side will work well because the accessories get in the way of attaching anywhere else on that side of the engine block.
05-02-2018, 11:14 AM
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i say that because they seem not to have any interest in acquiring actual customers, only shotgunning pictures of beautiful cars with 1.8 engines fitted.
they have a continuous history of never answering direct questions through any line of communication regarding pricing info, so for now, just wall posters.
they have a continuous history of never answering direct questions through any line of communication regarding pricing info, so for now, just wall posters.
all of which are being driven, sans a couple rare cars that are staying with the shop. I'd hardly consider them "wall posters." Maybe some video of this "wall poster" turning laps would be nice. https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=2011042082302735&id=109417815798514
05-02-2018, 11:31 AM
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MWR 1.8T in action ON THE TRACK
Does the 1.8T use the same BH pattern at the I5?
a lot of interest lately around the web for 944 1.8 swaps, especially since MWR only builds wall posters.
if viable i think youd get a lot more than 5 orders.
a lot of interest lately around the web for 944 1.8 swaps, especially since MWR only builds wall posters.
if viable i think youd get a lot more than 5 orders.