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Old 06-05-2020, 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Cjar
My car also has manual steering, I pulled apart an ebay AC compressor and just mounted the front half with the stock VW pulley to hold the place and make the belt routing complete.
That’s a good idea as well, had not considered that. Can you share pictures?
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Old 06-05-2020, 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by hinton
Absolutely amazing guys. Sounds great even at idle, but I can't wait to hear that turbo on the dyno! Really interested in what kind of numbers you get from it. That video was certainly some motivation for me to spend some more time in the garage!

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Old 06-05-2020, 08:41 PM
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Also, Mike you mentioned making a video going over everything with the build. Would you be willing to make a quick video of what needs to connect where on the cooling system? I don't need specific hose part numbers, I'm just a bit lost on where these connections need to be made.
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Originally Posted by EastEnd944
Also, Mike you mentioned making a video going over everything with the build. Would you be willing to make a quick video of what needs to connect where on the cooling system? I don't need specific hose part numbers, I'm just a bit lost on where these connections need to be made.
Yeah we can do that. Will you be retaining heat?
Old 06-06-2020, 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by hinton
That’s a good idea as well, had not considered that. Can you share pictures?







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Originally Posted by hinton
Yeah we can do that. Will you be retaining heat?
Awesome, thank you. Yes I would like to keep heat.
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I think it would be safe to say most of us are using a 4-port bypass style heater valve, for those of us keeping heat, correct?
Pretty sure we went over that a while ago but I could be wrong.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Heater-Bypa...72.m2749.l2649
This is the one I have

Old 06-07-2020, 11:08 AM
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I am retaining heat, but couldn’t find a place to mount the 4- port valve. So I picked up a TTRS stat housing, which has the extra bypass separate from the heater built in as a separate circuit. Now I’m running the stock 944 heater cutoff valve and just have two pipes coming from the back of the head.

Here are schematics, first from Audi and second how my car is plumbed.



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Adding a little additional detail to Mike's post about cooling system setups. Sorry, no diagrams yet... Mike has locked me in the garage until I get my car on the dyno.

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- Largest fitting on rear coolant flange -> upper radiator port (there are some formed hoses I found that work awesome for this, snaking around the firewall and steering shaft without rubbing on anything) Here it is: Dayco 72365 will get you most of the way from the back of the engine up to the radiator. Depending on what radiator you're running, you will probably need an adapter and a second hose to finish the run. I used a billet aluminum 1-1/4" coupler made by ICT Billet, with Gates heat shrink hose clamps, since there's no reason to pull this splice apart for service.
- Lower radiator port -> thermostat neck (another formed hose, I will update here when I find the part number) Here it is: Dayco 72193.
- Steam vent (smallest port on rear flange) -> small vertical port on back of expansion tank (I used a piece of 6mm or 7mm ID silicone hose for this).
- Cap the 3/4" port on the OE thermostat housing (I bought a set of coolant bypass caps from an auto parts store, and put silicone on a small one to push inside the port, and then hose clamped a 3/4" cap on the outside.)
- And, pick one of the following options:

Option 1. No heat and no water-cooled turbo
3/4” outlet on rear flange -> thermostat housing bypass fitting*

Option 2. With heat and no water-cooled turbo
3/4” outlet on rear flange -> 3/4" inlet in heater valve (GM 12380318)**
3/4" and 5/8" fittings on heater valve -> heater core ports
5/8" outlet of heater valve -> thermostat housing bypass fitting*

Option 3. No heat and with water-cooled turbo
3/4" outlet on rear flange -> 5/8" x 5/8" x 3/8" tee (Dorman 47147)
Water outlet on oil filter block -> turbo water inlet
Turbo water outlet -> 3/8" port on tee
5/8" port on tee -> thermostat housing bypass fitting*

Option 4. With heat and water-cooled turbo
3/4" outlet on rear flange -> 3/4" inlet in heater valve (GM part # 12380318)**
3/4" and 5/8" fittings on heater valve -> heater core ports

5/8" outlet of heater valve -> 5/8" x 5/8" x 3/8" tee (Dorman 47147)
Water outlet on oil filter block -> turbo water inlet
Turbo water outlet -> 3/8" port on tee
5/8" port on tee -> thermostat housing bypass fitting*

* bypass fitting can be made by cutting off the end of the steel bypass tube that mounts into the thermostat housing, and welding on a steel 5/8" barb fitting (such as Dorman 56152). See pic below. There is also a 3/4" version of this fitting, which may work better for options 1 and 3, along with the 3/4" version of the Dorman tee.
** GM part is vacuum actuated. Substitute a 4-port cable-actuated heater valve if necessary. I mounted mine above the bellhousing on the passenger side, right near the heater core ports on the firewall. You can easily find 5/8" and 3/4" formed hoses at your local parts store that will make the connections (I found a couple of short 90 degree ones). When they ask you what kind of car you need a hose for, just smile and wink.


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Hey guys i havent posted here before, but i have to ask, What Ac compressor is that? It would fit perfect on my TDI build!!

I have pondered different ideas for running the ac, but havent pulled the trigger on any yet.
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Originally Posted by tims944
Hey guys i havent posted here before, but i have to ask, What Ac compressor is that? It would fit perfect on my TDI build!!

I have pondered different ideas for running the ac, but havent pulled the trigger on any yet.
Should be VW part 1K0820859G or anything from a VW 2.5L I5. I think some variants had single belt pulleys as well.
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Originally Posted by Sixline
Should be VW part 1K0820859G or anything from a VW 2.5L I5. I think some variants had single belt pulleys as well.
Oh... i didnt realize you arent actually running the AC... you just used the housing for fitment and completing the belt system.

Yea.. it doesnt fit there,

i might use the traditional ac compressor from my BHW engine. or a reverse mounted one, not sure yet.

thanks though.
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Got our first turbo noises! Still running the NA tune, hence the poor response haha

https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=2540746376239274


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