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Old 02-24-2009, 11:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Lorax
For a dd I can't see anything better. I'd start with a 931 though just for kicks.
I am using a 924S hopefully soon but a 931 wouldn't be a bad choice but I think the current "kits" if you want to call them that are not 931 friendly.

Also, I plan on using my LS1 powered car to pull my Porsche powered car to the race track in the future (down the road a few years)
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Originally Posted by tone3721
No. Thats one of the finer points of a Porsche. High strung tho....yeah I guess. I could see that.
To really admire the engineering that goes into a 500rwhp 2.5L motor, consider that the same specific output in a new Z06 would yield 1400rwhp or, say, 1650hp at the flywheel.

A more typical 400rwhp 2.5L motor would be 1120rwhp or, say, 1320hp at the flywheel.
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I've always thought 944J was the alter ego of a certain forum member. Whether this thread corrobarates or eliminates that suspicion, I'm not quite sure....
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Originally Posted by tone3721
No. Thats one of the finer points of a Porsche. High strung tho....yeah I guess. I could see that.

Nowadays Porsche isnt even about small engines. To me its about pushing the envelope. In regards to the v8 swaps, to me its low tech, vs high tech. GM OHV v8 = boring ***, low tech, crap. IMO. SOHC i4 turbo = higher tech. Its just plain more advanced. Porsche is about advancement, innovation, etc. Plugging a GM V8 in does none of those. It just gives you a bit cheaper HP. Those engines are so low tech its boring. At least theyre finally Al.
Well I can't say I agree there. I love the LS motors. I think they have their place however I don't think a reliable ls1 swap can be performed on a 944 turbo for 7k without addressing issues.
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I've always thought 944J was the alter ego of a certain forum member. Whether this thread corrobarates or eliminates that suspicion, I'm not quite sure....
Who in the world did you think he was? Pm?
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He's not Lart.
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Originally Posted by ehall
He's not Lart.
I didn't think lart was permanently banned?
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Originally Posted by porshhhh951
I didn't think lart was permanently banned?
He isn't, but his profile says "most banned".
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Originally Posted by porshhhh951
I didn't think lart was permanently banned?
I don't think he is. He's just really busy.
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QUOTE=RolexNJ;6320802]He isn't, but his profile says "most banned".[/QUOTE]

lots of banning going around lately. Just making sure[
Old 02-25-2009, 01:22 AM
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I knew I was gonna catch hell for my V8 comments. LOL Yes they can push big power. No doubt about that. But theyre played out, boring, and IMO low tech. Not that the 951 is high tech by todays standards by any means. But what has really changed on those V8's other than efi, and Al, since like the 50's? Hell they were even Al ones in the 50's if I recall. Just plain boring. A 3.0 4 banger, is impressive, hell a 3.0 4 banger is almost unheard of. Frickin cool to me! Hehehe, my next project will be a 3.7t 968. If the rumors of a crank with a stroke long enough to displace 3.4l come to reality. Just need to find a worthy 968 this year.
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Tone I have to ask what's up with the hippie avatar ...No disrespect just wondering why you got such a colorful pic?
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Originally Posted by INURGRL951
Tone I have to ask what's up with the hippie avatar ...No disrespect just wondering why you got such a colorful pic?
LOL. None taken. Its the further bus. Most would see it and think hippie, I can understand why. The merry pranksters are not hippies, contrary to popular belief. Although many hippies were/are inspired by them. Ken Kesey is one of my favorite authors, he owned the bus in my avatar. Google him, or the merry pranksters, if your really interested.

Some would call me a hippie. LOL Do hippies vote, eat copious amounts of animal flesh, hunt, have conservative views, collect guns, and drive pissed off high horsepower cat delete sports cars? If so, I guess Im a "hippie". LOL

Im a deadhead, not a hippie, there is a difference. Believe it or not. If the shoe fits tho......
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Originally Posted by tone3721
But what has really changed on those V8's other than efi, and Al, since like the 50's?
I can't argue your opinion, but I can state some of the facts about an LSX.

Hollow Camshaft
Bay-to-Bay breathing
Complete roller valve-train
Replicated ports
15degree Heads
32bit ecu
Alloy block
6-bolt main caps
Composite intake
Powdered metel rods
Low-tension rings
significantly lighter rotating assembly (then previous Generations)
Coil per plug

Furthermore, the LS1 doesn't share ANY part with ANY pre-existing SBC. NONE of the parts of interchangeable.


-Rogue
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Originally Posted by Rogue_Ant
I can't argue your opinion, but I can state some of the facts about an LSX.

Hollow Camshaft
Bay-to-Bay breathing
Complete roller valve-train
Replicated ports
15degree Heads
32bit ecu
Alloy block
6-bolt main caps
Composite intake
Powdered metel rods
Low-tension rings
significantly lighter rotating assembly (then previous Generations)
Coil per plug

Furthermore, the LS1 doesn't share ANY part with ANY pre-existing SBC. NONE of the parts of interchangeable.


-Rogue


I see your point. But still when compared to the likes of some like a Bugatti w16, its quite obsolete. Given thats comparing perhaps some of the most high tech, but I think you get my point.

I have to admit im bias, my brother is a poorvette guy. Weve been arguing about poorvette, and porsche for years. All biases aside tho, its still not impressive IMHO. If you want cheap, generic motors..err I mean general motors is the way to go. You get what you pay for tho.
Old 02-25-2009, 02:51 AM
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Originally Posted by tone3721
GM OHV v8 = boring ***, low tech, crap. IMO. SOHC i4 turbo = higher tech.
just about anything that is SOHC is low-tech crap...lol...fact of the matter is we got cheated out of a good motor (straight 6??) from the factory...

just an FYI, the 5000HP dragsters are OHV

Originally Posted by tone3721
I see your point. But still when compared to the likes of some like a Bugatti w16, its quite obsolete. Given thats comparing perhaps some of the most high tech, but I think you get my point.
i dont think anything can really compare to the tech of the Bugatti...


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