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Old 05-15-2019, 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by EGDUSA
-But I must sell it now -hopefully to someone who will keep it excellent or better.... I'll assist any buyer with transport -or personally drive/deliver it within 1500 miles.
That is a sweet car; however you must be a paid member to put a for sale ad on rennlist. It's less than $20, so probably worth it for you. You can then add the ad to the Rennlist marketplace.
Old 05-15-2019, 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by newcollector
I recently did this. Flew from NY to see an old Lancia in mainland Europe. Checked the car out, did the deal, road-tripped in it, then took a car ferry to UK, drove it to the docks at Liverpool, UK (I flew home) and the Lancia made it back to Newark, NJ after 10-days on a boat (R-O-R not individual container, from my research this is not only cheaper but safer). I think shipping and insurance with brokerage help on customs paperwork cost me $1250-$1500.
Picked the car up at Newark port and drove it 3-hours home. With Hagerty towing coverage giving me peace of mind. Fun experience. Recommend it!
The tricky part of the European pick-up-and-drive is the insurance. Not easy or simple. How did you insure it when driving it from the purchaser to the shipping point in the UK?
Old 05-15-2019, 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Luis A.
The tricky part of the European pick-up-and-drive is the insurance. Not easy or simple. How did you insure it when driving it from the purchaser to the shipping point in the UK?
I negotioated it with the seller as part of the deal, continuation of their coverage with me as a listed driver.
Old 05-15-2019, 08:12 PM
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Thanks for your reply. What country was the vehicle and or the insurance registered in?
Old 05-15-2019, 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Luis A.
Thanks for your reply. What country was the vehicle and or the insurance registered in?
I'm a US resident, UK citizen. Not that this mattered for the insurance I don't think. The seller arranged for cross-border transfer plates, and the Euro-wide insurance carrier was AXA. Italy to UK.
If the seller hadn't been able to do this and show me the paperwork was in-order for insurance, then Hagerty said they could have worked a deal between their US and UK operations for temporary coverage. The coverage while the car was on the boat was a separate policy however and that was Hagerty's stipulation: they could cover to the port and at port pick-up but not provide coverage for the 'marine' leg.
Old 05-15-2019, 11:29 PM
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I have used Hagerty UK (through my US coverage) in the past for driving a classic I shipped form the US to Europe for a club event but they have indicated that they only would provide coverage for such an "event" but not for a situation like you describe. It's been my experience that most sellers are not willing to do much to help with coverage such as your seller arranged for you.
Old 05-15-2019, 11:33 PM
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'86.5 5-speed, black over tan.

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Old 05-16-2019, 02:38 AM
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Thanks for NelaK for giving his two cents on my questions. Another forum member also activated also when reading this topic when I had sent him questions about his car for sale on craigslist. I'll probably start following this topic since I might be less scary to forum members if I approach them about a car for sale here than to people on craigslist..

Now here is a discussion about driving in Europe for which I might be able to contribute since I live in Finland. Getting an insurance & plates depends on the country. On a general rule you should be able to get transfer plates for a couple of weeks with insurance. Don't remember very well the cost since the last time I used them was 10 years ago. Let's say maybe 150 euros.

The Swedish sellers are really sensitive about keeping the plates of the car if the car is sold for export. They are worried about not getting the car unregistered in their country without the plates even though in reality they don't need the actual plates to do that. I know since I have bough several cars from there. Haven't been a problem for me since from Finland we can get transfer plates with insurance that are valid in Scandinavia. Just fill in the vincode of the car to specify on the road that the plates are valid for that particular car. I have just put them on in Sweden and driven the car back from there. The Swedish police don't care about different plates. They have been driving several times behind me in the traffic and I have never gotten pulled over. As a general rule I would say that if you want to buy a car from Europe and drive for a couple of weeks before shipping it back it can be done with a bit of googling.

Shipping is roughly USD 1000 to East coast US and 1500 to West coast. You can use roro or a shared container where they put three normal size cars inside one big container. If the car is undrivable in Sweden I would say that transportation to port would be around 250 euros. At least in Finland some people don't bother picking their US or Japanese hobby cars from the port since it's easier to have them picked up and delivered to where you live.
Old 05-16-2019, 09:59 PM
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Old 05-16-2019, 10:02 PM
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Sorry to create an account for this express purpose (for now), but does anyone have any thoughts on this BaT listing? I feel many are waiting for the seller to post pictures of the underbody (the seller posted pictures of the underbody of the 928 GTS he sold in December, which makes their absence here more conspicuous).

Surely it won't stay under 30?

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https://bringatrailer.com/listing/19...he-928-gts-13/
Old 05-17-2019, 09:54 PM
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$23k for the GTS? Being automatic probably has everything to do with it. The price gap between manuals and autos is increasing
Old 05-18-2019, 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Kongmiami
$23k for the GTS? Being automatic probably has everything to do with it. The price gap between manuals and autos is increasing
Note - it wasn't $23K. That's just what the bid went to on that day by those following that auction. It did not sell for that very low number. The values are much higher, and one RNM does not make a trend. Also, that car was a high mile Canadian car that no doubt scared off some potential buyers. I agree, there is a difference in value between the manuals and the autos.
Old 05-18-2019, 09:42 AM
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These cars were built to drive not built to Waterhouse.
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Old 05-18-2019, 09:50 AM
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I have restored a couple dozen Chevelle all worthy of high hammers. I have never been low balled over 'true mileage"
The only one that was a factor in was a '"barn find" 69 SS
With 40 on the clock.
I still cannot grasp the concept why these cars with proper
Log books are frowned upon
Old 05-18-2019, 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by linderpat
Note - it wasn't $23K. That's just what the bid went to on that day by those following that auction. It did not sell for that very low number. The values are much higher, and one RNM does not make a trend. Also, that car was a high mile Canadian car that no doubt scared off some potential buyers. I agree, there is a difference in value between the manuals and the autos.
What Ed said.

Also, in real estate they use the term "Ready, Willing and Able" buyer. All three boxes must be checked for the sale to go final. Also for an auction to take place, that statement is doubled, i.e., there must be two ready, willing, and able buyers to make it an auction. Auctions have advantages and disadvantages.


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