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The trans has to come out, what would be the point of wasting the labor of the R&R to put back a half decent trans vs a rebuilt?
Problem is that broken input shaft I think makes it an unacceptable core to any rebuilder, its just some spare likely unneeded parts right now.
Problem is that broken input shaft I think makes it an unacceptable core to any rebuilder, its just some spare likely unneeded parts right now.
So he can drive it.
Weekend job for most, even quicker for a 928'r with HIS experience.
Sort out the approach for the longer-term tranny question in the next few weeks.
I've done this several times myself just to keep the cars rolling.
Sure its better to get a factory-new result for each repair. But that's not what most of us are doing, if you want the honest truth.
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Its on street. If someone would like to take on Leeroy and complete the circle, I can tow him up to 250 $$ away - which is about 90 miles.
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From what I've seen, in the past 5 years....the "selection" of used 5 speed transmissions worth the time to install is getting very thin.
When 928 International started out, Mark bought cars that had been in accidents. It was possible to find quite nice low mileage transmissions.
Now the supply seems to be high mileage cars that have so many defects that they are not worth fixing, reducing the chances of finding a decent used transmission. Many of the used ones have been "rebuilt". My experience in looking at the average rebuilt transmission is not good....many of these transmissions are never the same, after they have been taken apart and re-assembled, by the average rebuilder. Pieces in the wrong places, improper syncros, etc., are common.
Fixing a broken transmission is not a simple thing, these days.
When 928 International started out, Mark bought cars that had been in accidents. It was possible to find quite nice low mileage transmissions.
Now the supply seems to be high mileage cars that have so many defects that they are not worth fixing, reducing the chances of finding a decent used transmission. Many of the used ones have been "rebuilt". My experience in looking at the average rebuilt transmission is not good....many of these transmissions are never the same, after they have been taken apart and re-assembled, by the average rebuilder. Pieces in the wrong places, improper syncros, etc., are common.
Fixing a broken transmission is not a simple thing, these days.
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It's gotten to the point where the "early" 928 transmissions virtually all take two transmissions to economically build one....sometimes three. And you are still going to spend serious money on the standard wear items, like bearings, syncros, internal syncro parts, sliders, etc.
And judging the amount of hydrogen embrittlement is impossible. You can just pick out the best looking gears/pieces and hope that they don't break.
Most of this stuff is just plain old worn out.
And judging the amount of hydrogen embrittlement is impossible. You can just pick out the best looking gears/pieces and hope that they don't break.
Most of this stuff is just plain old worn out.
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BC . just a side question. are the E85 cars ( 2 if my memory serves me correctly), that you have rebuilt and used for many miles, are they 5 speeds or auto's..??
Sorry to hear about the shaft…..you always rebound and make things better somehow
Sorry to hear about the shaft…..you always rebound and make things better somehow
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BC, i get it now. I had a similar problem, broken flexplate between a 6.0 and a 480LE, got it done the day before the snow fell here. Major work, both tranny and trxfr case out, front 4wd axle dropped, etc.
Completely blocked the garage space.
if I was nearby, I'd help you with both jobs.
Completely blocked the garage space.
if I was nearby, I'd help you with both jobs.
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The 86.5 had the engine taken apart and the pieces boxed up for later. Most everything is spotless. The mains were perfect and the rods were... not. But that is over 200k miles on that one. The 85 had "less" miles, but they were unknown ones. I don't know what Mark did with that car. I bent it and sent it up to him. Man that 85 was a beast. Just wicked fast on ethanol. WICKED fast. I never even thought that something like this could happen on those cars - and it never did - even with high miles.
I can't wait for this rat motor to go in the 86.5 for more ethanol use. My "Rat" definition is all used parts and weird combinations.
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BC, i get it now. I had a similar problem, broken flexplate between a 6.0 and a 480LE, got it done the day before the snow fell here. Major work, both tranny and trxfr case out, front 4wd axle dropped, etc.
Completely blocked the garage space.
if I was nearby, I'd help you with both jobs.
Completely blocked the garage space.
if I was nearby, I'd help you with both jobs.