'82 16V 4.7L Build - OE+ Goal
10-05-2010, 02:52 PM
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Congrats. The more you read about the 928 the more you will appreciate the engineering and work that went into it. When I bought mine a couple years ago I was going back and forth between the 928 and a nice clean '82 or '83 911 SC. The SC is a great car but the 928 is in a league of its own in terms of technological advancements and engineering acheivement for its day.
Things like factory coil-overs, double wishbone suspension, all aluminum engine with no sleeves, rear trans, aluminum body components, dual disk clutch, etc. The 928 was not really considered an exotic, but was still light years ahead of practically everything on the road.
Good color too.
Things like factory coil-overs, double wishbone suspension, all aluminum engine with no sleeves, rear trans, aluminum body components, dual disk clutch, etc. The 928 was not really considered an exotic, but was still light years ahead of practically everything on the road.
Good color too.
10-05-2010, 03:08 PM
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Welcome
Enjoy it
Smile as you do it.
Enjoy it
Smile as you do it.
10-08-2010, 09:43 AM
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Did the first "major" tear into the car last night.
Installed the Hella H4's. With 55w bulbs for now, until I have the time and resources available to make a proper relayed headlight harness and run the 90/130w's I have stashed.
Light output is already WAY better than the sealed beams. Will have to re-aim them though. Had the car up on my lift while doing the headlights, and as the suspension settled the light aim went out. nothing a phillips' head screwdriver can't fix.
While in the headlight buckets, I completely disassembled them. Cleaning and anti-seizing the adjusters to make any potential future aiming easier. The two adjustment screws on the passengers' side were "iffy". So.....rather than buy whole new headlight buckets when I only needed the adjustment screws I found a close replacement. A little research and a well placed guess found me this:
Help! brand headlight adjuster screws for early 90's Honda/Acura's are the closest match I could find without having to make a special order online somewhere. The part number is: 42197. They come two in a package, and are roughly 1/4" shorter than the stock ones, but are the correct size and pitch ( M5 x .80 ). An added bonus is that the head section is wider, so if your buckets are a little rusty, the larger "flange" on the head will take care of the discrepancy.
Ordered the two lower radiator mounting rubbers' from 928Intl. to correct my floppy radiator situation and installed them last night. Was just going to pick up the radiator and stick them in....but that turned into a whole ordeal. ended up pulling the radiator out completely. Found the air dams on either side of the radiator were all bent/tweaked/not bolted in. Clearly someone with very poor attention to details did the radiator install. Corrected all the little issues I ran into though. Cleaned the sec. air filter/housing out, was full of leaves and pine needles (!?!?). And installed the new lower radiator hose that was damaged by the p/s pulley when the lower half of the radiator tried escaping.
Chased the aftermarket alarm horn attached to the upper radiator shroud back to the unit (stuffed behind the glove box/right side of dash)and spent the next two hours removing, and repairing the broken/hacked wiring. I'll have pictures of this mess when I find the cable to upload from my camera.
Unit was a Clifford Polaris II. Damn thing was spliced into SO MANY WIRES! ARGH!
That is all....for now....
Installed the Hella H4's. With 55w bulbs for now, until I have the time and resources available to make a proper relayed headlight harness and run the 90/130w's I have stashed.
Light output is already WAY better than the sealed beams. Will have to re-aim them though. Had the car up on my lift while doing the headlights, and as the suspension settled the light aim went out. nothing a phillips' head screwdriver can't fix.
While in the headlight buckets, I completely disassembled them. Cleaning and anti-seizing the adjusters to make any potential future aiming easier. The two adjustment screws on the passengers' side were "iffy". So.....rather than buy whole new headlight buckets when I only needed the adjustment screws I found a close replacement. A little research and a well placed guess found me this:
Help! brand headlight adjuster screws for early 90's Honda/Acura's are the closest match I could find without having to make a special order online somewhere. The part number is: 42197. They come two in a package, and are roughly 1/4" shorter than the stock ones, but are the correct size and pitch ( M5 x .80 ). An added bonus is that the head section is wider, so if your buckets are a little rusty, the larger "flange" on the head will take care of the discrepancy.
Ordered the two lower radiator mounting rubbers' from 928Intl. to correct my floppy radiator situation and installed them last night. Was just going to pick up the radiator and stick them in....but that turned into a whole ordeal. ended up pulling the radiator out completely. Found the air dams on either side of the radiator were all bent/tweaked/not bolted in. Clearly someone with very poor attention to details did the radiator install. Corrected all the little issues I ran into though. Cleaned the sec. air filter/housing out, was full of leaves and pine needles (!?!?). And installed the new lower radiator hose that was damaged by the p/s pulley when the lower half of the radiator tried escaping.
Chased the aftermarket alarm horn attached to the upper radiator shroud back to the unit (stuffed behind the glove box/right side of dash)and spent the next two hours removing, and repairing the broken/hacked wiring. I'll have pictures of this mess when I find the cable to upload from my camera.
Unit was a Clifford Polaris II. Damn thing was spliced into SO MANY WIRES! ARGH!That is all....for now....
10-08-2010, 10:51 AM
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Welcome and enjoy an awesome car! 928's are awesome. They are a great way to spend your money, you can't take it with you when you die so you might as well dump it in your 928!
Enjoy the process! It is a journey not a destination!
Enjoy the process! It is a journey not a destination!
10-08-2010, 11:00 AM
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Welcome to the ranks of 928 owners.
You are going to find that a lot of things on these cars are different than other cars you have worked on, mostly for the better.
You are going to find that a lot of things on these cars are different than other cars you have worked on, mostly for the better.
10-12-2010, 08:33 PM
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Installed the Hella H4's. With 55w bulbs for now, until I have the time and resources available to make a proper relayed headlight harness and run the 90/130w's I have stashed.
Light output is already WAY better than the sealed beams. Will have to re-aim them though. Had the car up on my lift while doing the headlights, and as the suspension settled the light aim went out. nothing a phillips' head screwdriver can't fix.
Light output is already WAY better than the sealed beams. Will have to re-aim them though. Had the car up on my lift while doing the headlights, and as the suspension settled the light aim went out. nothing a phillips' head screwdriver can't fix.
What Hellas did you put in there?? Are they the H4 sealed beam conversions with the flat lenses?? I have been looking at changing mine, but haven't decided yet which ones I am going to go with. If you get a chance can you take a picture of your new Hellas, and give me a little more info on which ones they are. I have been also looking at some Cibies with the convex lenses. I can't decide if the flat lens would look okay in my 7" bucket with the chrome ring around it.
Thanks, and have fun with your new prize!!
10-14-2010, 10:08 AM
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PcPlod - The lights I have in the car are Hella Model # 1A6 002.395-031
They are not sealed beam, they take a conventional H4 bulb. And were, in my case, a direct replacement for the H6024 sealed beams that were in the car originally.
Compared to the sealed beams, the lenses are a little "flatter" but I don't think they look to bad with the chrome rings around them. And even if they did look bad, the light output more than makes up for it.
I'll try to get some better pictures of them up here soon....again, still looking for the camera cable. 
In other news, got a flat tire on Monday while out on a scenic drive in the hills. I was on borrowed time anyways with the tires that were on there. At least I was in a scenic spot and had time to take in the weather and view while I waited for the tow truck.
Ran down to tire rack in CT yesterday and picked up the new tires. My first choice tires are on back order until Nov/December so I went with the runner-up. Dunlop Direzza Sport Z1 Star Spec's. Stock 225/50/16 size. They look and feel nice compared to the old brittle (likely 10yr old) Dunlops that were on the car when I bought it. We'll see how they go once on the car.
Also, my latest order from 928 Motorsports should be in tomorrow, just in time to try and get some things done before the Wilbraham meet next weekend.
On the to-do list:
Silicone Oil Pan gasket & bolt-to-stud conversion
Silicone rear cam carrier cover seals.
Short shifter
..and possibly regrettably, the metal shifter ball pivot upgrade.
They are not sealed beam, they take a conventional H4 bulb. And were, in my case, a direct replacement for the H6024 sealed beams that were in the car originally.
Compared to the sealed beams, the lenses are a little "flatter" but I don't think they look to bad with the chrome rings around them. And even if they did look bad, the light output more than makes up for it.
I'll try to get some better pictures of them up here soon....again, still looking for the camera cable. In other news, got a flat tire on Monday while out on a scenic drive in the hills. I was on borrowed time anyways with the tires that were on there. At least I was in a scenic spot and had time to take in the weather and view while I waited for the tow truck.
Ran down to tire rack in CT yesterday and picked up the new tires. My first choice tires are on back order until Nov/December so I went with the runner-up. Dunlop Direzza Sport Z1 Star Spec's. Stock 225/50/16 size. They look and feel nice compared to the old brittle (likely 10yr old) Dunlops that were on the car when I bought it. We'll see how they go once on the car.
Also, my latest order from 928 Motorsports should be in tomorrow, just in time to try and get some things done before the Wilbraham meet next weekend.
On the to-do list:
Silicone Oil Pan gasket & bolt-to-stud conversion
Silicone rear cam carrier cover seals.
Short shifter
..and possibly regrettably, the metal shifter ball pivot upgrade.
10-15-2010, 10:36 AM
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Camera cable found!
New tires! Don't worry, there is a fourth, I was already in the process of putting them on.
Headlight pictures for you Paul!
The old alarm mess fiasco:
Ugh.
More soon, my box of goodies should be here momentarily.
New tires! Don't worry, there is a fourth, I was already in the process of putting them on.
Headlight pictures for you Paul!
The old alarm mess fiasco:
Ugh.
More soon, my box of goodies should be here momentarily.
10-15-2010, 04:46 PM
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Thanks for the pics Jeremy!
I like the way those Hellas look. I am going to check out that website you sent to me and see what they have. Looks like you are doing a great job on your shark! Did you say what tires you went with?? I just put some Continental ExtremeContact DWS on mine and they are great!! I've got a bout 1000 miles on them and couldn't be happier!!
I like the way those Hellas look. I am going to check out that website you sent to me and see what they have. Looks like you are doing a great job on your shark! Did you say what tires you went with?? I just put some Continental ExtremeContact DWS on mine and they are great!! I've got a bout 1000 miles on them and couldn't be happier!!
10-15-2010, 04:59 PM
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My first choice was the Conti. Extreme Contact DW's, but was told by Tire Rack that they were on back-order until Nov/Dec. I needed tires ASAP, so the wait wasn't going to happen. I considered the DWS's but this car will be lucky if it ever sees rain, and absolutely no winter so I really didn't have a need for an all-season tire.
The ones I bought are Dunlop Direzza Z1 Star Spec's.
The ones I bought are Dunlop Direzza Z1 Star Spec's.
10-15-2010, 06:09 PM
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Couldn't contain myself. Short shifter is in, and linkage is re-aligned. Rear universal part right behind the linkage adjustment is rubbish. Now somewhere around here I saw a thread on a bronze insert piece(s) that someone on here (IIRC) made to replace the bad rubber inner parts. Anyone have a link or info on this if you know what I'm talking about? Or even if they were a product being produced?
Other note, as I'm unfamiliar and have never driven another one of these:
Is the shifter in the neutral "rest" position supposed to be to the right. As in: if you were to go directly from neutral, forward or aft, 4th and 5th would be the gears you'd select. First "preload" to the left would be 2 & 3, forward/aft respectively. And Reverse and 1st are the last to the left?
I'm used to from a rest going into (in this case) 2nd and 3rd. Setting the shifter directly in the center of the pattern when in neutral. Is this incorrect for these cars? This damn shifter is driving me wonky.
Other note, as I'm unfamiliar and have never driven another one of these:
Is the shifter in the neutral "rest" position supposed to be to the right. As in: if you were to go directly from neutral, forward or aft, 4th and 5th would be the gears you'd select. First "preload" to the left would be 2 & 3, forward/aft respectively. And Reverse and 1st are the last to the left?
I'm used to from a rest going into (in this case) 2nd and 3rd. Setting the shifter directly in the center of the pattern when in neutral. Is this incorrect for these cars? This damn shifter is driving me wonky.
Last edited by U-928; 10-15-2010 at 06:36 PM.
04-23-2011, 04:21 PM
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Update:
So, as some of you know, I had decided to drop the motor out of the car. It really came down to lots of little things that needed fixing, that would just be WAY easier if the whole damn thing was just out of the car. Problem was, that meant that the car I intended on driving all summer would be out of commission.
Thanks to a great man in NY though, I now have a 80K mile '84 4.7L to play with out of the car. Now I can take my time and get this "new" motor to the 100% I want it at, then when the time comes later this summer, I can do the swap. Complete with intake and exhaust manifolds, air-flow meter, cross-member and the newer style motor mounts that I wanted to update to!
This is a much better plan as I see it. Sure I lose the completely stock appeal that the car had....but who's going to argue with a motor they should "never" have to worry about again? And more HP to boot!?
Let the fun begin!
So, as some of you know, I had decided to drop the motor out of the car. It really came down to lots of little things that needed fixing, that would just be WAY easier if the whole damn thing was just out of the car. Problem was, that meant that the car I intended on driving all summer would be out of commission.
Thanks to a great man in NY though, I now have a 80K mile '84 4.7L to play with out of the car. Now I can take my time and get this "new" motor to the 100% I want it at, then when the time comes later this summer, I can do the swap.
Complete with intake and exhaust manifolds, air-flow meter, cross-member and the newer style motor mounts that I wanted to update to!This is a much better plan as I see it. Sure I lose the completely stock appeal that the car had....but who's going to argue with a motor they should "never" have to worry about again? And more HP to boot!?
Let the fun begin!
04-23-2011, 04:25 PM
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Update:
So, as some of you know, I had decided to drop the motor out of the car. It really came down to lots of little things that needed fixing, that would just be WAY easier if the whole damn thing was just out of the car. Problem was, that meant that the car I intended on driving all summer would be out of commission.
Thanks to a great man in NY though, I now have a 80K mile '84 4.7L to play with out of the car. Now I can take my time and get this "new" motor to the 100% I want it at, then when the time comes later this summer, I can do the swap. Complete with intake and exhaust manifolds, air-flow meter, cross-member and the newer style motor mounts that I wanted to update to!
This is a much better plan as I see it. Sure I lose the completely stock appeal that the car had....but who's going to argue with a motor they should "never" have to worry about again? And more HP to boot!?
Let the fun begin!
So, as some of you know, I had decided to drop the motor out of the car. It really came down to lots of little things that needed fixing, that would just be WAY easier if the whole damn thing was just out of the car. Problem was, that meant that the car I intended on driving all summer would be out of commission.
Thanks to a great man in NY though, I now have a 80K mile '84 4.7L to play with out of the car. Now I can take my time and get this "new" motor to the 100% I want it at, then when the time comes later this summer, I can do the swap.
Complete with intake and exhaust manifolds, air-flow meter, cross-member and the newer style motor mounts that I wanted to update to!This is a much better plan as I see it. Sure I lose the completely stock appeal that the car had....but who's going to argue with a motor they should "never" have to worry about again? And more HP to boot!?
Let the fun begin!