Two Valve (Pre '85) Update/Freshen
#256
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Incredible job getting this done on such a tight schedule..
Remember, if he needs a local wrenching partner, tools or whatever to deal with any of the residual issues, I'm only too glad to help either at his place or on my lift, as needed. He can email me at billb_msn "at" msn.com.
Remember, if he needs a local wrenching partner, tools or whatever to deal with any of the residual issues, I'm only too glad to help either at his place or on my lift, as needed. He can email me at billb_msn "at" msn.com.
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Absolute exciting thread - well done! If I'd ever had such experiences with a father, surely it would save me lotsa trouble in many ways. These are the memories that last for lifetime.
If I'd have a child someday, I'll hope he/she might share our passion - and for sure I'll remind your thread, Greg.
Until that, I'll copy your steps in my new project that is a '86 s2 manual that would benefit from nearly the same labor - however, I know, I'll need some more time to fix everything...
Again - thank you very much for the great input, Greg
Best
Marc
If I'd have a child someday, I'll hope he/she might share our passion - and for sure I'll remind your thread, Greg.
Until that, I'll copy your steps in my new project that is a '86 s2 manual that would benefit from nearly the same labor - however, I know, I'll need some more time to fix everything...
Again - thank you very much for the great input, Greg
Best
Marc
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Absolutely. No issues. He did have a low battery, from the car sitting for too long, and failed to rev the engine hard enough for the alternator to "key" the charging circuit. This resulted in poor running and finally a stalled car with a dead battery, in the middle of Berkeley. A quick phone call to me, a jump from a "local" shop (that the car quit right in front of), and a hard rev to key the alternator fixed that. He went and bought a battery charger and brought the battery back to full charge, once he got it home.
He's driven it back and forth from Northern California to Southern California several times. He can now drive a stick shift car...although finding and understanding a "clutch release point" in another car is still a bit of a problem. That comes after drivng a few different vehicles.
The transmission has bad syncros in 1st and 2nd...we didn't know the "history" and had never driven the car, so we decided to not take it apart and rebuild it, when we were doing the entire project. Silly us..although we did run out of time, without doing this, as it was. He's now driven 928s with both the "early" Porsche syncros and the "later" Borg Warner style syncros....and he is like me...he likes the feeling of the Porsche design syncros....he can "feel" it go into gear and likes that. So, we will rebuild the original gearbox soon, and everything will be good. We will be able to call this part of the project "done" and move on to the interior. (Dash cracks, pod cracks, worn leather seats.)
He's driven it back and forth from Northern California to Southern California several times. He can now drive a stick shift car...although finding and understanding a "clutch release point" in another car is still a bit of a problem. That comes after drivng a few different vehicles.
The transmission has bad syncros in 1st and 2nd...we didn't know the "history" and had never driven the car, so we decided to not take it apart and rebuild it, when we were doing the entire project. Silly us..although we did run out of time, without doing this, as it was. He's now driven 928s with both the "early" Porsche syncros and the "later" Borg Warner style syncros....and he is like me...he likes the feeling of the Porsche design syncros....he can "feel" it go into gear and likes that. So, we will rebuild the original gearbox soon, and everything will be good. We will be able to call this part of the project "done" and move on to the interior. (Dash cracks, pod cracks, worn leather seats.)
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Glad the car survived the first year, especially with a "non" stick driver. Was hoping to see the
car at Sharks in the Park, though understandable seeing as Finals were not until this week....
car at Sharks in the Park, though understandable seeing as Finals were not until this week....
#261
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I had heard Kyle was possibly coming to Sharks in the Park this last weekend, but I did not see him. Undoubtedly college offers a lot more interesting things to look at than a bunch of old cars and mostly old people. Oh, and then there is that thing called Finals. I vaguely recall that too.
#262
Very Cool.
Maybe document the rebuild of the early box unless there are some proprietary things you do in there. From what I did it, Its pretty basic. Other than how to get the dog-teeth off.
Maybe document the rebuild of the early box unless there are some proprietary things you do in there. From what I did it, Its pretty basic. Other than how to get the dog-teeth off.
Absolutely. No issues. He did have a low battery, from the car sitting for too long, and failed to rev the engine hard enough for the alternator to "key" the charging circuit. This resulted in poor running and finally a stalled car with a dead battery, in the middle of Berkeley. A quick phone call to me, a jump from a "local" shop (that the car quit right in front of), and a hard rev to key the alternator fixed that. He went and bought a battery charger and brought the battery back to full charge, once he got it home.
He's driven it back and forth from Northern California to Southern California several times. He can now drive a stick shift car...although finding and understanding a "clutch release point" in another car is still a bit of a problem. That comes after drivng a few different vehicles.
The transmission has bad syncros in 1st and 2nd...we didn't know the "history" and had never driven the car, so we decided to not take it apart and rebuild it, when we were doing the entire project. Silly us..although we did run out of time, without doing this, as it was. He's now driven 928s with both the "early" Porsche syncros and the "later" Borg Warner style syncros....and he is like me...he likes the feeling of the Porsche design syncros....he can "feel" it go into gear and likes that. So, we will rebuild the original gearbox soon, and everything will be good. We will be able to call this part of the project "done" and move on to the interior. (Dash cracks, pod cracks, worn leather seats.)
He's driven it back and forth from Northern California to Southern California several times. He can now drive a stick shift car...although finding and understanding a "clutch release point" in another car is still a bit of a problem. That comes after drivng a few different vehicles.
The transmission has bad syncros in 1st and 2nd...we didn't know the "history" and had never driven the car, so we decided to not take it apart and rebuild it, when we were doing the entire project. Silly us..although we did run out of time, without doing this, as it was. He's now driven 928s with both the "early" Porsche syncros and the "later" Borg Warner style syncros....and he is like me...he likes the feeling of the Porsche design syncros....he can "feel" it go into gear and likes that. So, we will rebuild the original gearbox soon, and everything will be good. We will be able to call this part of the project "done" and move on to the interior. (Dash cracks, pod cracks, worn leather seats.)
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Great to hear the update!
This is a great thread for people to see. Even a fairly low mile example has plenty to keep someone busy.
That and a father son project my vote for best thread ever.
This is a great thread for people to see. Even a fairly low mile example has plenty to keep someone busy.
That and a father son project my vote for best thread ever.
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Awesome thread.
Thank you.
Thank you.
#267
Are 928ers when they are getting parts plated using cad plating or or the yellow zinc plating? I have had great trouble in getting a cad plater in Australia. The zinc doesn't wear that well and that the zinc plated parts suffer hydrogen embrittlement as most are not baked immediately after plating like cad parts normally are. Any feedback please.
Kyle making more progress.
New ball joint boots. 928 International has them.
Start with a bit of redone hardware:
And a bit of engine hardware.
Front shocks. Found some used Bilsteins. Install plastic guide washer and shock snubber.
Usually the dust covers are broken or cracked. Best to start with a new one. Used ones always seem to be cracked.
Assemble spring using a high quality spring compressor. There is a huge amount of stored energy here. Be very careful.
Assemble front suspension is pretty simple. Install pieces in the proper places and torque hardware. Nothing to it.
Virtually every brake line was frozen where the nuts contacted the lines and where the nuts threaded into their respective places. This requires making new lines. The master cylinder is going to be replaced, soon. You can make out the two new lines, just behind the old power steering lines.
The other end of one of the new brake lines. We're replacing the stock rubber hose to the caliper with a Goodridge set of brake hoses.
Speaking of power steering hoses. Look closely at the cracks in the old return hose.
New ball joint boots. 928 International has them.
Start with a bit of redone hardware:
And a bit of engine hardware.
Front shocks. Found some used Bilsteins. Install plastic guide washer and shock snubber.
Usually the dust covers are broken or cracked. Best to start with a new one. Used ones always seem to be cracked.
Assemble spring using a high quality spring compressor. There is a huge amount of stored energy here. Be very careful.
Assemble front suspension is pretty simple. Install pieces in the proper places and torque hardware. Nothing to it.
Virtually every brake line was frozen where the nuts contacted the lines and where the nuts threaded into their respective places. This requires making new lines. The master cylinder is going to be replaced, soon. You can make out the two new lines, just behind the old power steering lines.
The other end of one of the new brake lines. We're replacing the stock rubber hose to the caliper with a Goodridge set of brake hoses.
Speaking of power steering hoses. Look closely at the cracks in the old return hose.
#268
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and drives it on the weekends.
The transmission still crunches and the interior needs some help, but he will need to take the lead on these projects....my plate is pretty full.
We plan to use the car for the test mule for a brand new engine project...
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Kyle graduated from Berkeley with a degree in economics and stayed in the bay area working for 4 years. He is now back in Southern California, working with me, trying to learn what I know. He drives this car a couple of times to work, each week,
and drives it on the weekends.
The transmission still crunches and the interior needs some help, but he will need to take the lead on these projects....my plate is pretty full.
We plan to use the car for the test mule for a brand new engine project...
and drives it on the weekends.
The transmission still crunches and the interior needs some help, but he will need to take the lead on these projects....my plate is pretty full.
We plan to use the car for the test mule for a brand new engine project...
Looking forward to hearing about your 16V engine project.
#270
I have talked to Kyle a couple of times now having been at Greg's shop this past year.
To me, he seems like the most calm, level headed human that is under mid twenties I have met recently. While this is a car thread, I would just like to commend the Browns for a "good raisin". I can only hope my son (who is nearly 14 [and takes after his dad's "sharper" personality] can turn out as good a human. Its just been on my mind.
[back to cars] : Thanks again for all your help Greg.
To me, he seems like the most calm, level headed human that is under mid twenties I have met recently. While this is a car thread, I would just like to commend the Browns for a "good raisin". I can only hope my son (who is nearly 14 [and takes after his dad's "sharper" personality] can turn out as good a human. Its just been on my mind.
[back to cars] : Thanks again for all your help Greg.