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Old 08-07-2007, 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Bill Ball
Peter Brock was in his early 20s at the time he worked on the Dyatona Coupe. I wonder if he is still around.[/img]
He was killed last year driving a Peter Brock Superformance Coupe. A slightly updated version of the originall Daytona Coupe. The new version (for sale by Superformance out of South Africa) has a top speed close to 210mph with a Rousch 427 small block under the hood.

He lost control during a car rally in Austrailia, hit a tree killing him instantly.


This is the car he was driving when he was killed:


After the crash:


For what Peter did for the racing world, his death went pretty unnoticed.
Old 08-07-2007, 04:51 PM
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Bill: Been thinking that same thing.
Erik: duuude I feel sick.
Old 08-07-2007, 04:53 PM
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The early 928 design sketches with S4-like tail lights actually had a nearly Kamm-tail and definitely had a measure of rear diffusers!!!
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Originally Posted by heinrich
Erik: duuude I feel sick.
Old 08-07-2007, 04:54 PM
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I saw the notice that Peter Brock had died, but I was confused by the Australian touring/rally car references. I didn't know he spent that much of his life post-Shelby racing in Australia. It appears he was a racing legend there. I see that picture of the car, unmistakenly a Daytona, and read the account. That was the man. Really too bad. His verification of the the effect of the Kammback and other views of our fat rear end would have been very valuable to have.
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Bill wasn't the difference in speed the roadster vs the coupe ? And If you want to "fix" the 928 you whack it off just behind the rear shock towers move the fuel cell to the rear seat area and have a very short 928 ! The Southern Cal Timing Association (Bonneville guys) do not allow station wagons to run for one reason ....station wagons generally are more aerodynamic than coupes or sedans and would be FASTER ! The big bustle butts on the BMW are part of raising the deck lid as high as possible ...
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Originally Posted by Jim bailey - 928 International
Bill wasn't the difference in speed the roadster vs the coupe ?
The first design had the rear end continue all the way to a curvy rear end. I saw one of the Daytona prototypes at Road America a few years back with a different *** end on it. Not every Daytona Coupe has that tail.
Old 08-07-2007, 05:07 PM
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AFAIK, having read this in several magazine articles a long time ago, the Kammback and RAISING the roofline was responsible for a 25% increase in top speed for the coupe. Hard to verify it now. Caroll Shelby's still around. He was said to have initially resisted Brock's design and was advised it would not be effective. Brock convinced Shelby to let him go with it and testing on the M1 in England proved Brock was right. I have seen pictures of Daytonas without the Kammback, as Hacker mentioned.
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Originally Posted by Bill Ball
I saw the notice that Peter Brock had died, but I was confused by the Australian touring/rally car references.
I think you were right the first time -

Peter Brock was born in Australia in 1945 and sold and raced cars.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Brock

Pete Brock was born in New York in 1936, worked for a time at GM under Billy Mitchell, founded Brock Racing Enterprises (BRE) and is apparently still alive.
http://www.datsunhistory.com/BRE.html

The idea that Peter Brock was killed driving what appears to be a car designed by Pete Brock is certainly confusing.

(Edited to add references - and make a couple corrections)
Old 08-07-2007, 05:12 PM
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Well that explains a few things. There are two different people.

I was doing some research a while back on the Daytona coupes, found the story about Brock's death very suprising. My first thought was "He was from Austrailia?". Thanks for the info.
Old 08-07-2007, 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Bill Coleman
I think you were right the first time -

Peter Brock was born in Australia in 1945 and sold and raced cars.

Pete Brock was born in California in 1936, worked for a time at GM under Billy Mitchell, founded Brock Racing Enterprises (BRE) and is apparently still alive.

The idea that Peter Brock was killed driving what appears to be a car designed by Pete Brock is certainly confusing.
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...&ct=image&cd=1

Mighty coincidental that a Peter Brock would be driving a Daytona designed by a different Pete Brock. I saw the BRE/ Datsun racing references too.

So these are TWO Pete(r) Brocks. Wow! Well, then maybe I can find the guy in Seattle area after all.
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Originally Posted by Bill Ball
Mighty coincidental that a Peter Brock would be driving a Daytona designed by a different Pete Brock, I saw the BRE/ Datsun racing references too. So these are TWO Pete(r) Brocks. Wow! Well, then maybe I can find the guy in Settale after all.
Great, this weekend at Siebkens I'll try to explain this to someone, and I'll end up throwing the name Brock Yates into the mix.
Old 08-07-2007, 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Hacker-Pschorr
Great, this weekend at Siebkens I'll try to explain this to someone, and I'll end up throwing the name Brock Yates into the mix.
Or this guy? Kent Brockman[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kent_Brockman]

Here's the Aussie may he rest in peace http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Brock
Old 08-07-2007, 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Hacker-Pschorr
That is one fine looking car.
Old 08-07-2007, 05:31 PM
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OK, Peter Brock made it to at least January of this year...
http://www.cobracountry.com/breakingnews.html


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