Mongo

effin traitors

Tom928

I still have the same opinion on Corvette I had 20 years ago - overpriced and overrated.

What is really interesting is that the local "vette club" at work has decreased from 18 members to 6 - mostly due to BMW fever. I asked one of the guys why he got rid of his vette and his reply was: "Vette's are just cheap pieces of fiberglass with a big motor, no real engineering and the only reason they are still in production is because American's believe they are real sports cars and pay ridiculous prices for them."

The next door neighbor had 4 Corvette's. From C2 thru C6. He sold all of them and when I asked him why; his response was "Pieces of junk - none of them ever worked right or drove right - never buy one - just pieces of junk."

Cheers,

BC

At least Chevy's Corvette franchise is still trying to create a competitive atmosphere, with track-time related sponsoring, and actual coverage for normal to medium track usage.

Porsche, on the other hand, mightily disappoints on most fronts when it comes to factory backed racing campaigns, the way they treat track driving owners, and the way they disseminate "black lists" of people who may have tracked their cars, thereby voiding warrantee claims.

Chevy vs BMW in the "ridiculous prices" for what you get category will not be won in BMW's favor. While your comments are telling, I am not sure they are telling the same thing you are saying.

But I guess maybe this thread has strayed a bit. I have never taken the Blue Pill on 928s, though I have invested more time and effort into them than most here. I have always been of the "Red pill" camp, knowing that I am a general enthusiast, and given bigger budgeting, would probably stray very far from the Porsche fold because of what I feel the company has done to its core in the last 10 years or more.

But the company that built (hand built) the 928 was different that the PAG of today, and so the car is more the focus. Its built like a tank, but I have had to do alot of things to the 78 ot make sure it won't drive like one.

IcemanG17

Are vettes priced "ridiculously".....I don't think so.....there is nothing else even remotely close to the vettes price point that comes close to its "performance" (as in hard #'s not feel...in terms of new cars, not used or modified).....there is not many new cars with 6 year 100,000 mile powertrain warranties that can run almost 200mph and a sub 12 second 1/4 mile & a 1:40.5 at Laguna with crappy stock run flat tires (remember Kibort runs 1:39's)....the Z06 is a serious ride... the supercharged Z07 or whatever its called will be straight wicked with 650-700hp

Does the vette have the aura of a 928...no and never will......they make 35K+ vettes a year...

My thinking is a vette would make a fun daily driver & something you can take to track occasionally to beat on and not worry about......the thought of leasing a vette for three years....beating the snot out of it....& giving it back....while the whole time I drive it..its on warranty....sounds pretty good since vettes also hold their value well...which makes the leases cheaper too...

BC

^ What he said, though a slightly used one may have better financial weight.

Tom928

To some, power and performance are secondary considerations.
So, the amount of HP, or how fast I can go - doesn't matter that much!

Reliability, maintenance, special items (like being hand built), how rare, are more important than power or performance - to me.
So - when you take the "fast" out of Corvette - I don't see you have much left. Take the fast out of 928 and you have much more left (besides the aura).

The 'ridiculous price" was in the context that for the price of a Corvette you get more "value" or better engineering from BMW, MB, Porsche (not specifically 928), etc.
American car companies are famous for cost cutting and Corvette is product of that methodology. Knowing this and hearing so many Corvette owners complain about multiple failures of new and replaced components leads me to feel that the "value" is not there.

Disclaimer: These are the opinions of a heavily biased 928 enthusiast and do not necessarily reflect the opinions of other 928 enthusiasts.

Cheers,

Bill Ball

You know, these Vettes are not bullet-proof. Beating the snot out of a lease car could get expensive. Anyway, I hope one of you guys get one, beat it up pretty good and come back after a year or so and tell us how good it still is, let alone 15-20 years. There is no way one of the Vettes driven 183K miles over 18 years like my 89 would be in one-half as good shape.

Nicole

They recently did high speed testing at the track in Nardo, Southern Italy, and the Vettes were pretty darn fast out of the box. About 307/308 km/h (which was a bit less than promised by the factory). But during the day, in the Southern Italian heat, the gear boxes overheated. This seems to be a weak spot, since I heard this happened in Open Road Racing as well.

Maybe one of these days I'll take a walk over to the Chevy dealer that's less than a mile away and take a look - just for curiosity.

Mike Simard

Brendan, if you yearn for a 'Vette why not just get one? Trade in your S2000 on one and keep it stock in case you lose interest or something else comes along.
If you feel like you have to finish your 928 project car, don't worry about it. We gearheads and guys in general always leave unfinished projects and you won't be the first. It's better to forget a project, admit you've lost interest and move on than to have it be perched in your yard as a constant reminder that you have work to do.

cobalt

Just a correction their warranty is 5 year 100,00 mile drivetrain not 6 and everything else is 3 year 36k, the new Z07 will be over $110,000 and I was told there will be very limited production most likely carrying a premium since not all dealerships will be alloted one for sale. I also heard that if you don't have an inside connection good luck getting your hands on one. Then again how many $110k cars out there offer 700 hp.

I will say that the paint on the Vettes has more orange peel than anything I have seen on a Porsche.

F451

I agree fully.

And there is no reason you could not get back into 928's later. There are plenty around (relatively - and you know where to find ones that have good histories), and the prices are across the board.

Variety is the spice rack of life. Or something like that.

MGW-Fla

The little time that I was out & about yesterday I counted eight corvettes on the road. I also counted two 928s,...... both in my garage!!

heinrich

IMHO this is all discussion in the wind. We all know that Brendan will not, and cannot, buy a new Corvette at this point.

BC

I personally do not have the ego requirements regarding exclusivity, and as I mentioned, i will be seeing if this 78 will do the trick for my needs. I basically will be trying to "fix" all the issues I have had with the car prior.

Its always objective with me instead of the subjective "boy, I have a 928" but thats just the way I am. Thats what I was trying to touch on with the "idea of something" or that something specifically.

Jim bailey - 928 International

Perhaps the biggest problem with buying a new Vette is next years new Vette will make your's OLD !! And just an FYI Corvette resale prices are SOFT I watched several sell for $3,000-4,000 below the "wholesale book" last Thursday...