George and Rich still alive....189mph 928-S4? Flatline...
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The bottom line: CONGRATULATIONS! BLNT of course, but what you did was damn fine! The video was awesome, the only thing that would have been more fun was to be able to hear more "comm chatter". Thanks for sharing it with us!
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Originally Posted by Rob Edwards
Bill-
I may have missed it somewhere in this or another thread, but does the absence of comments about shocks mean that you got the shocks/suspension issues resolved?
168 at stock ride height, unsupercharged? Man I gotta A) learn how to drive, and B) enter the rookie class some time......
I may have missed it somewhere in this or another thread, but does the absence of comments about shocks mean that you got the shocks/suspension issues resolved?
168 at stock ride height, unsupercharged? Man I gotta A) learn how to drive, and B) enter the rookie class some time......
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Originally Posted by BillB
It felt softer in the high speed sweepers than I would like
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Originally Posted by IcemanG17
But its so much easier just to post on the 1st topic you read & sound stupid to everyone!! I'm good at it!
I just watched the video....170 seems fast...until george puts his foot in it...188 seem SO much faster than 170.....I can't imagine what the beast is like at 200+
I just watched the video....170 seems fast...until george puts his foot in it...188 seem SO much faster than 170.....I can't imagine what the beast is like at 200+
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Originally Posted by Charley B
Bill, Did you swap out the swaybars when you were fighting the suspension issues? Are they stock or heavier now?
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That might be the difference in the sweepers for that nice solid feel.
Sounds like you were hitting about 172 through the trap. That just just seems astounding, given the age and mileage of your car. That car grew up about 18 years ago and still hits the same marks as it did out of the factory. Wish I was aging like that.
Sounds like you were hitting about 172 through the trap. That just just seems astounding, given the age and mileage of your car. That car grew up about 18 years ago and still hits the same marks as it did out of the factory. Wish I was aging like that.
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Originally Posted by Bill Ball
I've spent a lot of time with him working on his car, and this really hurts me, but not nearly as much as it hurts George.
I really do appreciate all the time you've spent with me getting the car ready for
ORR. I probably would not be able to compete at this level without your support.
I guess you've seen the advantage of the gps, not only a more realistic speedometer
and a good data logging device. When combined with the right software, it's
a great tool for analyzing your performance. I'd still like to get a WBO2 sensor
with logging like the LM1, but just haven't gotten around to it. So for now this is
what I use.
I still don't know why you've had such bad luck with the Konis, mine have been
great. I did get Marc to do the initial set up (corner balance, ride height, and
alignment), must be some secret incantation that was missing with your setup.
I'm still running stock springs and sway bars also.
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It is a good video. George makes the turns look easy. This is not the technical section, but I can assure you some of those uphill turns slowed me down. George just romped through them. I wish we could have seen George in some of the tighter turns.
George, do you have video from the first leg?
George, do you have video from the first leg?
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Originally Posted by jorj7
Bill,
I still don't know why you've had such bad luck with the Konis, mine have been
great. I did get Marc to do the initial set up (corner balance, ride height, and
alignment), must be some secret incantation that was missing with your setup.
I'm still running stock springs and sway bars also.
I still don't know why you've had such bad luck with the Konis, mine have been
great. I did get Marc to do the initial set up (corner balance, ride height, and
alignment), must be some secret incantation that was missing with your setup.
I'm still running stock springs and sway bars also.
Here's hoping there is good news from Salt Lake soon!
Last edited by Bill Ball; 06-12-2007 at 02:04 PM.
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Bill, you installed the shocks ...there may be something there.....sheared lower a arm rubber...dont know.
Very odd situation....stumped me....and that is hard to do
marc
Very odd situation....stumped me....and that is hard to do
marc
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WOW! I have always wondered about the ORR experience. The video really puts us in the game with you. Thanks for that. Sorry about the bad luck.
Thanks again for the pics and video, guys.
Thanks again for the pics and video, guys.
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Originally Posted by marc@DEVEK
Bill, you installed the shocks ...there may be something there.....sheared lower a arm rubber...dont know.
Very odd situation....stumped me....and that is hard to do
marc
Very odd situation....stumped me....and that is hard to do
marc
The A-arm rubber is not sheared, although I considered all the bushings suspect in light of my high mileage and bought all available ones for the whole car from you. I also bought a set of used A-arms from a 35K mile car. They are nice, but going through all the existing bushings carefully, they all look and act like new, so I have left them alone for the timebeing.
The shocks were bad, and I agree it is odd, but the shocks were bad, the first set worse than the second, but both underdamped. The car wallowed over bumps like an old Cadillac. Most people complain the Konis are stiff. I would have given anything for a stiff Koni. The Bilsteins have far better bump response without being harsh. Still, I prefer George's ride quality. It is remarkably controlled (better than the Bilsteins) without being uncomfortable at all. That's what I asked for when I approached you about shocks.
I have left the Konis sitting in a box on the floor, even though they are almost brand new, as I wouldn't want to be responsible for the outcome of anyone else using them.
I consider the shocks a closed issue even w/o a good explanation, other than they were just bad from the start. From day one I felt they were bad. The three years I fought with them completely pissed me off. I'd like to try to forget about it. It just makes me mad when I think about it, and that's not good for my health.
Anyway, sorry to hijack George and Rich's thread.
Last edited by Bill Ball; 06-12-2007 at 07:05 PM.
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Originally Posted by Bill Ball
Anyway, sorry to hijack George and Rich's thread.
Rich