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Nothing funky about the engine number. It’s an SP engine that matches the VIN.
The funky vin in the fender - the car was re-shelled by Porsche early on. Hence the “strange” vin with an X in it on the fender…
That put a lot of people off, which is bizarre - it was never a collector’s grade car, but one for driving. Given that the new shell was supplied and fitted by Porsche, why would someone care about something that has happened 35yrs ago and has no bearing on how the car drives NOW…
Am I the only one who would love the full story of a "re-shelled early on" 928 SE? Good God that was a big noise.
Am I the only one who would love the full story of a "re-shelled early on" 928 SE? Good God that was a big noise.
No, I'm curious too, as this is to me the first officially reshelled 928 I'm aware of.
And I would like to know the production number of the new shell 00? 000?, maybe.
Porsche did some strange things that were never documented all those years ago - like my GTS engine that was the last ever 5spd block supplied by the factory... The block had alusil liners. It also had different Kollbenshmidt pistons with drilled oil return holes and one piece oil control rings. The engine number is also a hand re-stamping, with no Model Year letter and also has a massive NB scratched on the vertical flat face perpendicular to the engine number face. Yes, I have official paperwork confirming it's the last engine they have in stock in Stuttgart, but no more info on the innards, which were very different to a stock GTS engine...
Anyway, back to the SE - the car was good and was an absolute bargain for the new owner - his first foray into 928 ownership. Was told he is a serious collector with lots of interesting cars. First refusal has been given to another member on here who is not short of a 928 or two, or three...
The only way to tell accuratly is count the teeth.
The most common ROW KPH gear is 20 x 32
However 20 x 29 & 20 x 30 have been fitted to ROW KPH speedometers.
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I would like to order the part before dismantling the counter, in order to reassemble quickly. I hate having subsystems in parts for more than a couple of days
I will try the 20X32 and hope that it's the right one.
I would like to order the part before dismantling the counter, in order to reassemble quickly. I hate having subsystems in parts for more than a couple of days
I will try the 20X32 and hope that it's the right one.
Since they are not costly, my best advise is to order all of the possible gears and inventory or re-sell the spares. That way you can replace them proactively and never miss a mile (or kilometer).
I have learned to replace all of mine before they break!
1092, 1095, 1096, 1097, 1100 and 1102 were produced the same day, the 6th of April, but 1095 was the first delivered, by far. The others were between June and October 1989.
1089 is strange because it was produced the 8th of May and actually delivered at the end of July.
My car is the 1095, so 1089 wasn’t the first to arrive in North America. Why wasn’t the vin numbers based on production date?
I should also note the door sticker says 03/89 as the production date. So March 89…not April
thanks
kent
I still collect data, but I don't care too much about delivery dates, especially when it comes to US cars.
There can be a huge difference in delay between the moment the car get out the factory, and the moment it is delivered to a final customer.
For a US/Canadian car, if this is a factory use one, it could be delivered the same day it is officially finished, or it could cross the Atlantic, and more, to be delivered on the West coast, and last a little moment on the dealership floor.
My understanding is that the dates recorded are:
- The day the car is finished on the production line (or is is the day it is considered as finished? For cars with a lot of Exclusive work, there is a difference)
- The day the car is delivered to a customer, which is the start of the warranty.
Do you know when and where your car was delivered?
Being a Canadian car, I suspect the cars are delivered in Montréal before Vancouver
About the sticker, we don"t know the precise moment the VIN is decided and the sticker made. It may be before the car is actually "finished". In 1989, the 6th of April was a Thursday, the 4th working day, so it wasn't long after the end of March, the previous Friday.
For some reason I couldn't upload this over the weekend, but here are the various time stamps for the first eight US/Canadian market '89 GTs. As Samuel alludes above, good luck figuring out the order in which they were assigned a production number, assigned a VIN, and 'finished'.
Given that the warranty date is the day a dealership registered the (sold) car in Porsche's network, I do think it's fair to say that Kent's car was likely the first to have been sold in the US/Canadian market, by quite a margin.
Not sure where I found this photo, but it depicts the 1988 Porsche NA US Sales Team. Plausibly with three cars that were flown over to the U.S. on the Delta jet behind it.
The 928 appears to have Club Sport Wheels on it. With a little imagination one can see a Club Sport sticker on the drivers side wing/fender.Having been enlarged it is rather grainy. The first three letters are blurred and the exact registration number is questionable... The last four are 1234. The marker lights appear to be from a Euro car ...
So my question is: Is this possibly one of the two CS's that were built for the US market and never seen again?
For some reason I couldn't upload this over the weekend, but here are the various time stamps for the first eight US/Canadian market '89 GTs. As Samuel alludes above, good luck figuring out the order in which they were assigned a production number, assigned a VIN, and 'finished'.
Hey Rob, with a production date of 03/21/1989 that would indicate 1097 was the first actually built for NA and 1095 was second one off the assembly line?
K
07-14-2024, 08:23 PM
George Layton March 2014
