Dealer Invoice Pricing For Boxster Spyder and dealing below MSRP
10-09-2020, 08:41 PM
#1
Dealer Invoice Pricing For Boxster Spyder and dealing below MSRP
Hello all. I can't find Porsche dealer invoice pricing, that is the price paid by the dealer for its Boxster Spyder. Given the high price I suspect the Spyder has a big gap between MSRP and actual dealer invoice. Does anyone know this number? I know a dealer with three of these cars (718 Spyders) on its lot. At least two of which were customer special order cars where the customer backed out. Trying to figure out what the dealer paid for these cars so I can determine what my offer should be. Thoughts?
10-10-2020, 12:11 AM
#2
Rennlist Member
I think 9% is an average margin. You can start low and work your way up to msrp where they will actually sell the car. On a new car without its in service date punched, you might get lucky and get 3-5k off if its a loaded high msrp car or a wierd spec. Or yellow 
Otherwise dont be shocked if they reject your offers under msrp. Its still a GT car and pretty new
Otherwise dont be shocked if they reject your offers under msrp. Its still a GT car and pretty new
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10-10-2020, 02:06 AM
#3
I think 9% is an average margin. You can start low and work your way up to msrp where they will actually sell the car. On a new car without its in service date punched, you might get lucky and get 3-5k off if its a loaded high msrp car or a wierd spec. Or yellow Otherwise dont be shocked if they reject your offers under msrp. Its still a GT car and pretty new
Otherwise dont be shocked if they reject your offers under msrp. Its still a GT car and pretty new
10-10-2020, 02:10 AM
#4
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They initiated the offer.....at $2k below MSRP. I suspect their GT cars have higher margins.....higher price cars = higher margins I would think. I mean, the Spyder they have is about twice what MSRP is on standard 718. Would be very interesting to see what a Porsche dealer pays for a Spyder.
just kidding. Lets see how low u can gettem.
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excelsiorz (10-10-2020)
10-10-2020, 02:11 AM
#5
All depends on the build as well. VIP cars are often specced with options that are of little market value, so dealers will be more likely to cut a deal to move cars like that. That’s the challenge of buying a Porsche you didn’t spec. You wind up paying for options you don’t want.
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10-10-2020, 06:43 AM
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All depends on the build as well. VIP cars are often specced with options that are of little market value, so dealers will be more likely to cut a deal to move cars like that. That’s the challenge of buying a Porsche you didn’t spec. You wind up paying for options you don’t want.
10-10-2020, 08:51 AM
#7
Drifting
They initiated the offer.....at $2k below MSRP. I suspect their GT cars have higher margins.....higher price cars = higher margins I would think. I mean, the Spyder they have is about twice what MSRP is on standard 718. Would be very interesting to see what a Porsche dealer pays for a Spyder.
30k in options should get you better discount than one with 10k.
I think someone on here got a decent discount on a GT4 by negotiating with the dealer regarding some unwanted options.
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10-10-2020, 09:06 AM
#8
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I think you are over thinking your offer
because even if you have the invoice pricing , there is hold back and other incentives from factory to dealer
and even if you know these numbers , it does not mean the dealer will accept your offer
roughly speaking you can safely say 10 % off , still leave them small margin
will they accept that on a GT car , probably not , but you can try
also different dealers have different business models , meaning , some will sit on a car for a year and will never discount , some will discount aggressively to move a car
Car market now is very fragmented. Some regular cars are selling at crazy premiums , and 718 GT cars , seem harder to move
you never know for sure, unless you negotiate and I suggest starting with GSM rather than SA because the SA will automatically tell you some BS
because even if you have the invoice pricing , there is hold back and other incentives from factory to dealer
and even if you know these numbers , it does not mean the dealer will accept your offer
roughly speaking you can safely say 10 % off , still leave them small margin
will they accept that on a GT car , probably not , but you can try
also different dealers have different business models , meaning , some will sit on a car for a year and will never discount , some will discount aggressively to move a car
Car market now is very fragmented. Some regular cars are selling at crazy premiums , and 718 GT cars , seem harder to move
you never know for sure, unless you negotiate and I suggest starting with GSM rather than SA because the SA will automatically tell you some BS
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excelsiorz (10-10-2020)
10-10-2020, 09:25 AM
#9
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Might help to know who the dealer is and what the 3 different specs are...
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excelsiorz (10-10-2020)
10-10-2020, 10:10 AM
#12
Just a shot in the dark here.
Is this at Pfaff?
https://pfaffporsche.com/inventory/?model=718+Spyder
Is this at Pfaff?
https://pfaffporsche.com/inventory/?model=718+Spyder
10-10-2020, 11:04 AM
#13
Intermediate
Just a shot in the dark here.
Is this at Pfaff?
https://pfaffporsche.com/inventory/?model=718+Spyder
Is this at Pfaff?
https://pfaffporsche.com/inventory/?model=718+Spyder
10-10-2020, 01:12 PM
#14
I think you are over thinking your offer
because even if you have the invoice pricing , there is hold back and other incentives from factory to dealer
and even if you know these numbers , it does not mean the dealer will accept your offer
roughly speaking you can safely say 10 % off , still leave them small margin
will they accept that on a GT car , probably not , but you can try
also different dealers have different business models , meaning , some will sit on a car for a year and will never discount , some will discount aggressively to move a car
Car market now is very fragmented. Some regular cars are selling at crazy premiums , and 718 GT cars , seem harder to move
you never know for sure, unless you negotiate and I suggest starting with GSM rather than SA because the SA will automatically tell you some BS
because even if you have the invoice pricing , there is hold back and other incentives from factory to dealer
and even if you know these numbers , it does not mean the dealer will accept your offer
roughly speaking you can safely say 10 % off , still leave them small margin
will they accept that on a GT car , probably not , but you can try
also different dealers have different business models , meaning , some will sit on a car for a year and will never discount , some will discount aggressively to move a car
Car market now is very fragmented. Some regular cars are selling at crazy premiums , and 718 GT cars , seem harder to move
you never know for sure, unless you negotiate and I suggest starting with GSM rather than SA because the SA will automatically tell you some BS
I was thinking there must be huge markups on the GT Spyders given their pretty substantial markup over standard 718.
Interesting....wonder why the 718 GT cars are not selling well? Too expensive for "just a Boxster"? Too close to 911 money?
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Asker509 (10-20-2020)
10-10-2020, 01:15 PM
#15
I think you are over thinking your offer
because even if you have the invoice pricing , there is hold back and other incentives from factory to dealer
and even if you know these numbers , it does not mean the dealer will accept your offer
roughly speaking you can safely say 10 % off , still leave them small margin
because even if you have the invoice pricing , there is hold back and other incentives from factory to dealer
and even if you know these numbers , it does not mean the dealer will accept your offer
roughly speaking you can safely say 10 % off , still leave them small margin