Dealer Invoice Pricing For Boxster Spyder and dealing below MSRP
10-11-2020, 09:30 PM
#31
No trades involved .. direct discount .. delivery January... he likes both so he is not sure which one to go for given the window is closing on him .. He knows the GM pretty well...Guess that helps LOL
10-11-2020, 09:38 PM
#32
If it is because he knows the GM and he is cutting him a special deal, then it's not really relevant of the real world and pretty useless info. for potential buyers out there.
10-11-2020, 10:19 PM
#33
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One dealer. I’m guessing it’s a Premier dealer, right? One with a bunch of VIPs that either spec and don’t take or that the dealer uses to inventory cars. PNH?
If you search all the sites and accumulate the real cars out there, it’s a tiny fraction of the total sold so far. The GT4 and Spyder has sold really well so far, as evidenced by how difficult it has been to get an allocation. But Covid will definitely have an impact.
If you search all the sites and accumulate the real cars out there, it’s a tiny fraction of the total sold so far. The GT4 and Spyder has sold really well so far, as evidenced by how difficult it has been to get an allocation. But Covid will definitely have an impact.
10-11-2020, 11:35 PM
#34
For Spyder that may be true, but don’t believe GT4s are that hard to get. My three local dealers all offered me an allocation. My closet dealer has two cars sitting on the lot right now, and that was three two weeks ago as they recently sold on that was on their lot for a month. Demand seems low for the GT4. I bet late PDK availability and the upcoming RS has kept early demand low.
Its certainly not the crazy days of 2-4 years ago, but they’re not giving them away either. And the number of GT4s for sale on lots is pretty similar to the Spyder if you adjust for relative production levels.
10-11-2020, 11:40 PM
#35
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Trust me, demand hasn’t been low for the GT4. There have been hundreds delivered to customers at or above MSRP. The cars sitting around are VIP cars that got left at dealers, and most are unique builds that are going to take a while to sell. Porsche GT customers tend to want to spec their own cars. I’ve seen two GT4 dealer cars that I would have been even remotely interested in.
Its certainly not the crazy days of 2-4 years ago, but they’re not giving them away either. And the number of GT4s for sale on lots is pretty similar to the Spyder if you adjust for relative production levels.
Its certainly not the crazy days of 2-4 years ago, but they’re not giving them away either. And the number of GT4s for sale on lots is pretty similar to the Spyder if you adjust for relative production levels.
From what I was told, three three sitting on the lot were back outs. For comparison, I want to buy a Spyder and have been on my dealers list since the announcement and they can’t even tell when a rough time frame of when I would get my car. GT4, I could put a deposit tomorrow and I would get the next one.
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10-11-2020, 11:53 PM
#36
Trust me, demand hasn’t been low for the GT4. There have been hundreds delivered to customers at or above MSRP. The cars sitting around are VIP cars that got left at dealers, and most are unique builds that are going to take a while to sell. Porsche GT customers tend to want to spec their own cars. I’ve seen two GT4 dealer cars that I would have been even remotely interested in.
Its certainly not the crazy days of 2-4 years ago, but they’re not giving them away either. And the number of GT4s for sale on lots is pretty similar to the Spyder if you adjust for relative production levels.
Its certainly not the crazy days of 2-4 years ago, but they’re not giving them away either. And the number of GT4s for sale on lots is pretty similar to the Spyder if you adjust for relative production levels.
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10-12-2020, 12:11 AM
#37
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Why wait for the Z? Base/Z51 already pushing high hp/tq —- how many jumping? Lastly C8 DCT only.
I just dumped my Z06/07 M7 to get into a Spyder...staying in the Vette never a consideration.
10-12-2020, 01:09 AM
#38
Trust me, demand hasn’t been low for the GT4. There have been hundreds delivered to customers at or above MSRP. The cars sitting around are VIP cars that got left at dealers, and most are unique builds that are going to take a while to sell. Porsche GT customers tend to want to spec their own cars. I’ve seen two GT4 dealer cars that I would have been even remotely interested in.
Its certainly not the crazy days of 2-4 years ago, but they’re not giving them away either. And the number of GT4s for sale on lots is pretty similar to the Spyder if you adjust for relative production levels.
Its certainly not the crazy days of 2-4 years ago, but they’re not giving them away either. And the number of GT4s for sale on lots is pretty similar to the Spyder if you adjust for relative production levels.
again, not true for my area. I know the VIPs who turned down and the first 3 folks who got their GT4s at this particular dealership.
From what I was told, three three sitting on the lot were back outs. For comparison, I want to buy a Spyder and have been on my dealers list since the announcement and they can’t even tell when a rough time frame of when I would get my car. GT4, I could put a deposit tomorrow and I would get the next one.
From what I was told, three three sitting on the lot were back outs. For comparison, I want to buy a Spyder and have been on my dealers list since the announcement and they can’t even tell when a rough time frame of when I would get my car. GT4, I could put a deposit tomorrow and I would get the next one.
The two at the dealer aren’t overly bloated and aren’t VIP. Both are at 120 with buckets and some other odds and ends that drives the price up. One is White, the other Gentian Blue. Both Aurum wheels. I got the first car at this particular dealer. These are 100% back outs. Seems like the market here is a bit soft. That said, if you are looking for white or GB, I can send anyone the contact info of my SA.
10-12-2020, 01:14 AM
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10-12-2020, 08:07 AM
#40
Drifting
Frunk unlatching, crooked stitching, some engine failure issue is not very confidence inspiring for me.
IMHO, the build quality and possibly design is not keeping up with its technical prowess.
I guess I prefer a well rounded, balanced package and the Porsche Kool aid that I am drinking is pretty addictive.
10-12-2020, 08:31 AM
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10-12-2020, 08:46 AM
#42
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I have no doubt it will be a great performer.
Frunk unlatching, crooked stitching, some engine failure issue is not very confidence inspiring for me.
IMHO, the build quality and possibly design is not keeping up with its technical prowess.
I guess I prefer a well rounded, balanced package and the Porsche Kool aid that I am drinking is pretty addictive.
Frunk unlatching, crooked stitching, some engine failure issue is not very confidence inspiring for me.
IMHO, the build quality and possibly design is not keeping up with its technical prowess.
I guess I prefer a well rounded, balanced package and the Porsche Kool aid that I am drinking is pretty addictive.
It’s kind of like, “if I have to explain it you wouldn’t understand”. I drank the Porsche Kool Aid 42 years ago, it’s engrained in me.
10-12-2020, 08:52 AM
#43
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I don’t think gt4/spyder/gts sales will be affected at all by any iteration of the Corvette. It has been a huge sports car performance bargain for decades now — that’s nothing new. If anything, many find the C8 looks objectionable and uglier than its predecessors, and a Spyder buyer has already chosen to suffer the PITA manual top for beauty.
John
10-12-2020, 09:17 AM
#45
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In 2006, when I was shopping for a new open-top backroads carver, I test drove a Corvette, a 911, and a Boxster. The Boxster won hands down, it wasn’t even close. Since then I’ve been a Boxster fanatic and less attracted to each new Corvette iteration even as they grew into ever bigger hp/$ “bargains”. By adding size, hp, and weight, most sports car makers have lost the plot. The 987 Boxster may still be the car I’d pick for my backroads regardless of price. Porsche is at least trying to retain this ethos in some of its new models like the Spyder or gts 4.0.