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Old 12-02-2022, 05:50 AM
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Originally Posted by ilovegt
can't wait to compare it to my STO and 458 as well. I was done with GT3 long ago when it became BBW. please Google image BBW.
EVO recently trashed the GT4RS in comparison to the 458Speciale.
Old 12-02-2022, 06:35 AM
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Got out to Sandown track in Melbourne, AU today. After some minor setup changes it’s spot on. Nice even tyres wear, excellent turn in. And for those familiar with the circuit the lap time is good too!

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Originally Posted by Kermit_the_Frog
EVO recently trashed the GT4RS in comparison to the 458Speciale.

Please post the article you are referring to. I cannot find it. The last one from EVO I find is this one.

https://www.evo.co.uk/porsche/cayman/gt4/rs
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Originally Posted by TexasPorschelover
Please post the article you are referring to. I cannot find it. The last one from EVO I find is this one.

https://www.evo.co.uk/porsche/cayman/gt4/rs
It's not online but print: https://evo-shop.co.uk/products/evo-...september-2022


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Originally Posted by Kermit_the_Frog
EVO recently trashed the GT4RS in comparison to the 458Speciale.

What's the price delta between those two?
Old 12-02-2022, 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted by jmartpr
What's the price delta between those two?
Go and ask EVO.
Old 12-02-2022, 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by jmartpr
What's the price delta between those two?
$149k base 4RS.

$291k base 458 Speciale new.
$600k give or take a $100k now.

US dollars.
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Extracted text…EVO 301, pg 96

The Porsche carries so much of what's precious about these cars. The intensity of the performance, the rev-hungry and exotic feel of the engine, the sheer bite of the chassis which, remarkably, isn't at the expense of fluidity. The GT4 RS really does tick so many boxes. I love the sharpness on the way into turns and the way it can be thrown in hard on the brakes and immediately snap into controllable oversteer. It has attitude and ability in abundance. We've waited a long time for a Cayman like this and in so many ways it's been worth it.

Yet, in truth, it never quite has us bubbling with wonder in the way we do about the Honda and Ferrari. Nor does it have the sheer laugh-out-loud intensity of the Lamborghini.

Perhaps on track this would all swing wildly in the other direction. In fact, I'm almost sure it would. But on some of the best roads we know, in perfect weather and over two glorious days, the GT4 RS doesn't quite get under our skin.

The noise is more than an annoyance: its relentlessness eats away at your enjoyment. There are other areas to nitpick, too. The PDK 'box is fantastic but, in the company of the Lamborghini and Ferrari systems, it lacks a sense of connection. It's more digital. It's telling that in the two Italian cars you never, ever want for a manual, but in the GT4 RS you crave it within ten minutes. It needs that extra layer of involvement. We leave deeply impressed but without those perfect memories served up so readily by one car in particular.

'It's head and shoulders above the rest,' enthuses John.

That's quite some statement in this company, but I think he's probably right. The Ferrari 458 Speciale is sublime, magnificent, outrageous, unbelievable. To deliver this level of demonic performance and sharpness with such control and grace is remarkable. "Totally rounded in its abilities,' explains John. 'Everything fits together beautifully.

The steering, the ride, the handling, the performance, the gearshift... it is a masterpiece of a car. That word - masterpiece - nails it completely. The Speciale feels like a moment in time, a project for the ages and a tribute to all the naturally aspirated V8s that have gone before. The Speciale is the very myth and legend of Ferrari incarnate in metal and carbonfibre. We came here to discover if the Porsche Cayman GT4 RS was one of the true greats. By the time we come to leave, there's another question hanging in the air.

Will it ever get better than the Ferrari 458 Speciale?

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Old 12-02-2022, 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted by TDT
Extracted text…EVO 301, pg 96

The Porsche carries so much of what's precious about these cars. The intensity of the performance, the rev-hungry and exotic feel of the engine, the sheer bite of the chassis which, remarkably, isn't at the expense of fluidity. The GT4 RS really does tick so many boxes. I love the sharpness on the way into turns and the way it can be thrown in hard on the brakes and immediately snap into controllable oversteer. It has attitude and ability in abundance. We've waited a long time for a Cayman like this and in so many ways it's been worth it.

Yet, in truth, it never quite has us bubbling with wonder in the way we do about the Honda and Ferrari. Nor does it have the sheer laugh-out-loud intensity of the Lamborghini.

Perhaps on track this would all swing wildly in the other direction. In fact, I'm almost sure it would. But on some of the best roads we know, in perfect weather and over two glorious days, the GT4 RS doesn't quite get under our skin.

The noise is more than an annoyance: its relentlessness eats away at your enjoyment. There are other areas to nitpick, too. The PDK 'box is fantastic but, in the company of the Lamborghini and Ferrari systems, it lacks a sense of connection. It's more digital. It's telling that in the two Italian cars you never, ever want for a manual, but in the GT4 RS you crave it within ten minutes. It needs that extra layer of involvement. We leave deeply impressed but without those perfect memories served up so readily by one car in particular.

'It's head and shoulders above the rest,' enthuses John.

That's quite some statement in this company, but I think he's probably right. The Ferrari 458 Speciale is sublime, magnificent, outrageous, unbelievable. To deliver this level of demonic performance and sharpness with such control and grace is remarkable. "Totally rounded in its abilities,' explains John. 'Everything fits together beautifully.

The steering, the ride, the handling, the performance, the gearshift... it is a masterpiece of a car. That word - masterpiece - nails it completely. The Speciale feels like a moment in time, a project for the ages and a tribute to all the naturally aspirated V8s that have gone before. The Speciale is the very myth and legend of Ferrari incarnate in metal and carbonfibre. We came here to discover if the Porsche Cayman GT4 RS was one of the true greats. By the time we come to leave, there's another question hanging in the air.

Will it ever get better than the Ferrari 458 Speciale?
Soooo....a limited edition Ferrari costing double (way more when we extrapolate its cost to present value) they feel is better than the GT4RS???
If you ask me, by their own comments, the GT4RS is a great car at its present cost. Porsche has been able to build what Ferrari no longer builds and made it "affordable" to a much larger market.
Never mind maintenance costs and the usual Ferrari quirks...The Speciale it's a different car in a different game altogether, that the 4RS gets so close to the Speciale level is just a win for Porsche.
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Originally Posted by Kermit_the_Frog
Go and ask EVO.
Two unhelpful posts in a row. Having a bad day or what?
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Originally Posted by ilovegt
can't wait to compare it to my STO and 458 as well. I was done with GT3 long ago when it became BBW. please Google image BBW.
gotta give a nsfw warning! 🤣
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Originally Posted by jmartpr
Soooo....a limited edition Ferrari costing double (way more when we extrapolate its cost to present value) they feel is better than the GT4RS???
If you ask me, by their own comments, the GT4RS is a great car at its present cost. Porsche has been able to build what Ferrari no longer builds and made it "affordable" to a much larger market.
Never mind maintenance costs and the usual Ferrari quirks...The Speciale it's a different car in a different game altogether, that the 4RS gets so close to the Speciale level is just a win for Porsche.
Exactly!
There is hardly anything like the GT4 RS since the days of the Ferrari Scuderia and Speciale.

Closest cars with similar characteristics - high rpm, NA, visceral, mid-engined, RWD - available today would be the Huracan RWD and the Corvette Z06.
But the Huracan is 100k more, and the design of the Corvette Z06 makes my eyes bleed

So if you want Porsche engineering and quality, in a format that Ferrari did in its best Luca di Montezemolo years, there is no substitute for a GT4 RS.
Now, who is getting theirs in PTS Rosso Corsa?


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Originally Posted by Kermit_the_Frog
EVO recently trashed the GT4RS in comparison to the 458Speciale.
The price delta there makes that comparison fairly irrelevant, don’t you think?
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Originally Posted by BusDriver
Exactly!
There is hardly anything like the GT4 RS since the days of the Ferrari Scuderia and Speciale.

Closest cars with similar characteristics - high rpm, NA, visceral, mid-engined, RWD - available today would be the Huracan RWD and the Corvette Z06.
But the Huracan is 100k more, and the design of the Corvette Z06 makes my eyes bleed

So if you want Porsche engineering and quality, in a format that Ferrari did in its best Luca di Montezemolo years, there is no substitute for a GT4 RS.
Now, who is getting theirs in PTS Rosso Corsa?
Also, the final R8 GT

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Originally Posted by Kermit_the_Frog
EVO recently trashed the GT4RS in comparison to the 458Speciale.
I so regret I did not take the 458 SA when it was at 510k just a few years ago. They refused to trade in my wife's FF. They were willing to take my 458 though. Today 458 SA is 1.2 mil.

oh well....having said that 458 SA of course is in completely different league. Its exhaust and engine noise is also unparalleled stock wise.

But for a sub 200k car, I can't think of anything else close the way GT4RS was created based on fans strong desire.

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