aclicky

TYD is currently blank for me now

jamesrg

Me too and others on the 992 section

TXRubicon

For those of you with original 2022 orders bumped to 2023s with PDLS+ as an option like me - I confirmed with my SA today, who confirmed with PCNA, that the sales price will reflect whatever the original 2022 pricing is less the cost of PDLS+. That's how it should be but with price protection rules, you never know.

Xxyion

Thanks for all the pics of the different light configurations. I specced base lights for my GT4 but was considering to go for PDLS but with some of the closeups it seems there's enough black in the headlight housing for me to stick with base.


I'm curious though if this will affect re-sale on the 2023. Maybe in the future, specifically the 2023 will see a lower used price because there won't be a single one with PDLS+. Maybe not? But also combined with no Bose (which means all 2023 are stuck with Base speakers for GT4) I really wonder what the long term affects will be.

Ken in San Diego

I have done some research, and there isn't a "plug-and-play" solution to upgrade in the future to PDLS+. With that said, there are some links about from someone wiring from the base lights to PDLS+. It's a LOT OF WORK, but apparently it can be done. So, if the value is really affected so much, I think folks moving forward will be posting on ways to upgrade to PDLS+ after market. I also have reached out to a local deal to see if they have any ideas on how to do this.

dmboone25

The Xenon PDLS definitely looks better - not sure about the actual performance, but looks-wise, this might be ok for those who can't get the LED.

As ​​​@UncleDude correctly pointed out, the base lights are circa-2005 GTI, and seriously look ridiculous on a $100K car.

TXRubicon

Highly doubt it has any affect on resale. The large majority of 718s I see, 4.0s included, are PDLS not PDLS+. It’s a nice to have but even when I wash shopping for my last 718 the only thing I cared about was the car having PDLS, not PDLs+. It’s a nice to have but definitely not going to change the value of the cars. Cars with base headlights are priced largely the same as cars with PDLS or PDLS+ In the last 3 years I’ve tracked the market.

jamesrg

Found this interesting. Specially from the 17min mark on.

jamesrg

Heard back from my SA, I remain cautiously optimistic.

"Sorry I have been a little slow to response. It Has a couple of busy days for me. Good news, your car just made the cut so it is not affected by these changes so you will get both the headlights and the Bose Audio System!"

rusmani

congrars man, that's awesome! Glad that worked out for you!

thanks again for taking the time to take/post pics of base/PDLS/PDLS+ pics. That was a huge help for a lot of us in this (first world) conundrum!

jamesrg

No problemo, and until it gets fully built I am not out of the woods just yet. He could be looking at the current status in the system and it still shows PDLS+ and Porsche just hasn't gotten around to updating mine yet. We will see. Fingers crossed!

unclemat

PDLS are 35W vs base 25W. The bulbs & ballasts can be easily and inexpensively upgraded.

bcct63

Hello Folks - New user here. I have a 2023 Boxster base on order that’s due at the end of October (received allocation in early May). I’m a bit confused. I ordered the premium package and TYD still shows PDLS+ and Bose. When I look at the standard features on the car, it shows “Bi-Xenon™ Headlights incl. Porsche Dynamic Light System (PDLS) with integrated 4-point LED daytime running lights.” So if the PDLS+ s not available, the car will come with the Bi-Xenon with PDLS? I see others on here talking about the “standard lights” that seem different (I’ve looked at the configurator for the Spider and GTS and it seems to be the same). Any help would be appreciated!

TXshaggy

718 GT cars get Bi-Xenon as standard.

718 GTS gets PDLS as standard.

There is a difference between the two.

DreiPedals

Can you advise what your TYD dates are / or were if they're now screwy. Mine was supposed to be 'at the dealership' on the east coast initially on Sept. 16, that moved a couple weeks back to Sept 23, then last week to Oct. 7th. I've got PDLS+ and Bose in the spec, and haven't heard from my dealer at all since this news started to break.

Unless, that is, you've got one of the very last MY2022's rolling out and that's how you made the cut; and your car is likely finished production in that case by now.

Thanks!