Notices
718 GTS 4.0/GT4/GT4RS/Spyder/25th Anniversary Discussions about the 718 version of the GT4RS, GTS 4.0, GT4, Spyder and 25th Anniversary Boxster
Sponsored By:
Sponsored By: Cobb

Stop Sale on 718 GTS, Spyder & GT4

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 04-02-2021, 07:25 PM
  #886  
BA73
Racer
 
BA73's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2018
Location: USA
Posts: 421
Received 238 Likes on 100 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by 987SCoupe
Man, that lemonade is going to need a lot of sugar!
VODKA
The following 6 users liked this post by BA73:
987SCoupe (04-02-2021), Alpha Ice (04-03-2021), JPMD (04-02-2021), P-car-Vancouver (04-02-2021), UncleDude (04-02-2021), XLR82XS (04-23-2021) and 1 others liked this post. (Show less...)
Old 04-02-2021, 07:29 PM
  #887  
johnycarrera
Advanced
 
johnycarrera's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Scotland
Posts: 81
Received 172 Likes on 39 Posts
Default

The above 3-6 month delay is a really sore one! I hope it’s nothing like that!

people in Scotland (my country) are already taking delivery of post 4th March build date unaffected cars!

im beyond angry now that they are getting do drive around in theirs when we’ve got no resolution and potential huge delays!

no offer of a loan car in fact **** all but silence 🤬
The following users liked this post:
wdr911 (04-03-2021)
Old 04-02-2021, 09:35 PM
  #888  
QWKFLAT6
Rennlist Member
 
QWKFLAT6's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2021
Location: Louisiana
Posts: 110
Received 157 Likes on 46 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by TXshaggy
It’s being reported that 800-1000 4.0L 718s are affected worldwide — sounds like every one made during those published dates.

Since this is primarily a North American forum..generally only discuss what’s relevant to us.
My Spyder was built during this timeframe (end of January) and is not involved in the stop sale/recall.
The following 2 users liked this post by QWKFLAT6:
UncleDude (04-02-2021), Z06jerry (04-03-2021)
Old 04-02-2021, 09:37 PM
  #889  
sassdouille
Intermediate
 
sassdouille's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 40
Received 61 Likes on 19 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by 987SCoupe
I never said how the tree fell on the car. The SA didn't realize the Taycan was "running" when he hit the go pedal. Backed into a small pine tree that had been weakened by termites. It fell on the Spyder that was being pulled forward by a mechanic who was installing clear marker lights prior to delivery.

Edit: I think we're on the same page.

haha, yes we are on the same page, I find that scenario very funny, although probably less fun if it was my car
Old 04-02-2021, 09:42 PM
  #890  
sassdouille
Intermediate
 
sassdouille's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 40
Received 61 Likes on 19 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by johnycarrera
The above 3-6 month delay is a really sore one! I hope it’s nothing like that!

people in Scotland (my country) are already taking delivery of post 4th March build date unaffected cars!

im beyond angry now that they are getting do drive around in theirs when we’ve got no resolution and potential huge delays!

no offer of a loan car in fact **** all but silence 🤬
Yeah that definitely hurts, it's like seeing people being served at a restaurant before you even though they arrived later ( I keep giving restaurant analogies, you can see what i've been missing the most with this crappy year )
The following 2 users liked this post by sassdouille:
P-car-Vancouver (04-02-2021), PorscheADD (04-03-2021)
Old 04-02-2021, 09:54 PM
  #891  
TTFLT6
Rennlist Member
 
TTFLT6's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2018
Location: Illinois
Posts: 305
Received 115 Likes on 59 Posts
Default

Has anyone’s vin come up as under recall on Porsche’s website? Or does that only flag delivered cars?
Old 04-02-2021, 10:49 PM
  #892  
UncleDude
Rennlist Member
 
UncleDude's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Canada
Posts: 4,886
Received 5,508 Likes on 2,258 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by TTFLT6
Has anyone’s vin come up as under recall on Porsche’s website? Or does that only flag delivered cars?
Mine hasn’t and probably never will because they still own the car so there’s nothing to recall. I could be wrong though.
The following 2 users liked this post by UncleDude:
*LongFella81 (04-03-2021), P-car-Vancouver (04-02-2021)
Old 04-02-2021, 10:59 PM
  #893  
rennlistmember
5th Gear
 
rennlistmember's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2021
Posts: 5
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by johnycarrera
The above 3-6 month delay is a really sore one! I hope it’s nothing like that!

people in Scotland (my country) are already taking delivery of post 4th March build date unaffected cars!

im beyond angry now that they are getting do drive around in theirs when we’ve got no resolution and potential huge delays!

no offer of a loan car in fact **** all but silence 🤬
3-6 month delay! Why not simply order a new one then?
The following 2 users liked this post by rennlistmember:
choeglund (04-03-2021), P-car-Vancouver (04-02-2021)
Old 04-02-2021, 11:23 PM
  #894  
psuwcc112
Rennlist Member
 
psuwcc112's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: California
Posts: 69
Received 129 Likes on 25 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by rennlistmember
3-6 month delay! Why not simply order a new one then?
To be fair, I think most of us would if the allocation is easy to come by.
The following 2 users liked this post by psuwcc112:
choeglund (04-03-2021), P-car-Vancouver (04-03-2021)
Old 04-03-2021, 12:02 AM
  #895  
Garagemahal
Instructor
 
Garagemahal's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2021
Posts: 103
Received 109 Likes on 43 Posts
Default

Let’s not get ahead of ourselves. I have learned one thing here- its that dealer know nothing. Let’s wait till PAG comes out with the plan
The following 4 users liked this post by Garagemahal:
johnycarrera (04-03-2021), P-car-Vancouver (04-03-2021), TTFLT6 (04-03-2021), UncleDude (04-03-2021)
Old 04-03-2021, 01:05 AM
  #896  
patdonahue
Pro
 
patdonahue's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Henley Field, MS.
Posts: 641
Received 403 Likes on 186 Posts
Default

I think the main problem here is logistics. Porsche has a LOT of cars that need engines replaced. Lets assume that they will replace the engines: Hopefully a good assumption.
Does Porsche take all the production engines needed for these cars and stop production on cars in the assy. pipeline?
Does Porsche add shifts in the engine shop to make up the deficit in engines for the recall cars and new production?
Can Porsche's suppliers meet increased demand should they ramp up engine production? This was a supplier induced problem not a engineering / assy. line problem
Does Porsche charter aircraft to get the engines to overseas locations or put them on a boat?
Does Porsche send specialty teams to say the USA / Canada to work 24/7 to get the engine swaps done in a quick fashion?
When I took delivery of my GTS 4.0 last November a point was made specifically in the paper signing that Porsche NOT the dealer would be responsible for warranty work, so this is not a dealer problem in THAT sense but from public optics it is a dealer problem, and not a pleasant one for the dealer. Many S/As probably want to stick their phones in the fridge.
I would think Porsche probably knows what it has to do and has a plan but the logistics and exactly how to do it may take some time to flesh out. Lots of moving parts here that have to mesh to get this solved. I feel for the folks who have had their cars delivered or have paid and see them sitting on the lot.

The following users liked this post:
UncleDude (04-03-2021)
Old 04-03-2021, 02:37 AM
  #897  
Mercuriell
Burning Brakes
 
Mercuriell's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2020
Location: Australia
Posts: 876
Received 492 Likes on 303 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by patdonahue
I think the main problem here is logistics. Porsche has a LOT of cars that need engines replaced. Lets assume that they will replace the engines: Hopefully a good assumption.
Does Porsche take all the production engines needed for these cars and stop production on cars in the assy. pipeline?
Does Porsche add shifts in the engine shop to make up the deficit in engines for the recall cars and new production?
Can Porsche's suppliers meet increased demand should they ramp up engine production? This was a supplier induced problem not a engineering / assy. line problem
Does Porsche charter aircraft to get the engines to overseas locations or put them on a boat?
Does Porsche send specialty teams to say the USA / Canada to work 24/7 to get the engine swaps done in a quick fashion?
When I took delivery of my GTS 4.0 last November a point was made specifically in the paper signing that Porsche NOT the dealer would be responsible for warranty work, so this is not a dealer problem in THAT sense but from public optics it is a dealer problem, and not a pleasant one for the dealer. Many S/As probably want to stick their phones in the fridge.
I would think Porsche probably knows what it has to do and has a plan but the logistics and exactly how to do it may take some time to flesh out. Lots of moving parts here that have to mesh to get this solved. I feel for the folks who have had their cars delivered or have paid and see them sitting on the lot.
All good questions - the forthcoming answers will be a good guide to P’s corporate responsibility to the end users - us.
Old 04-03-2021, 08:11 AM
  #898  
sanderabernathy
Rennlist Member
 
sanderabernathy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: Atlanta, Georgia
Posts: 914
Received 804 Likes on 361 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Porsche757
Reading the PCA article, it would appear the initial strategy would be new engines for the cars already delivered and repairs for those which haven’t been delivered but we shall see...
It says delivered cars will get a new engine. They don’t say whether undelivered cars will get a new engine or replacement connecting rods.
The following users liked this post:
afisherunc (04-03-2021)
Old 04-03-2021, 09:20 AM
  #899  
Specracer23
Track Day
 
Specracer23's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2021
Location: Toronto
Posts: 18
Received 5 Likes on 5 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by patdonahue
I think the main problem here is logistics. Porsche has a LOT of cars that need engines replaced. Lets assume that they will replace the engines: Hopefully a good assumption.
Does Porsche take all the production engines needed for these cars and stop production on cars in the assy. pipeline?
Does Porsche add shifts in the engine shop to make up the deficit in engines for the recall cars and new production?
Can Porsche's suppliers meet increased demand should they ramp up engine production? This was a supplier induced problem not a engineering / assy. line problem
Does Porsche charter aircraft to get the engines to overseas locations or put them on a boat?
Does Porsche send specialty teams to say the USA / Canada to work 24/7 to get the engine swaps done in a quick fashion?
When I took delivery of my GTS 4.0 last November a point was made specifically in the paper signing that Porsche NOT the dealer would n A Porschenation be responsible for warranty work, so this is not a dealer problem in THAT sense but from public optics it is a dealer problem, and not a pleasant one for the dealer. Many S/As probably want to stick their phones in the fridge.
I would think Porsche probably knows what it has to do and has a plan but the logistics and exactly how to do it may take some time to not flesh out. Lots of moving parts here that have to mesh to get this solved. I feel for the folks who have had their cars delivered or have paid and see them sitting on the lot.


My Spyder is just about to land in Halifax and after numerous “we don’t know anything “ from my dealer i’m Here for some insights. I am extremely disappointed with the lack of transparency from Porsche and It’s lack of courtesy to often very loyal customers who just want the truth thus far. I can accept that the solution may take time to implement . My understanding is that these are production engines taken from main engine facility and sent to GT division for modifications. I would imagine that the GT division is more hands on with its engine mods and limits its potential numbers. I’ve gone through enough exotic cars in my lifelong vice to know that we are paying for a premium product that should contain what we spec’d out a factory spec GT engine from the GT division I will not compromise on that end I do believe that the cars sold and taken and waiting for delivery should be absolutely the priority to new production Should finished cars really wait in dealers lots or ports while they continue delivering new cars ? Any defects in the warranty period are Porsche problems and the dealer network is their conduit to the public. Warranty work is not sent back overseas. I’m not at all concerned with engine replacement at a dealer as engines are dropped for a variety of service cases I agree that most here are not comfortable with a dealer service Dept replacement of the conrods but I would certainly hope and assume that all dealers have factory trained techs to deal with issues. Again I am backing engine swaps as that is what I feel is deserving to all. There would have to be some pretty compelling perks starting with a full extended warranty to convince me otherwise
Old 04-03-2021, 09:25 AM
  #900  
987SCoupe
Racer
Thread Starter
 
987SCoupe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 299
Received 247 Likes on 115 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by UncleDude
Mine hasn’t and probably never will because they still own the car so there’s nothing to recall. I could be wrong though.
Same here. My VIN says no recalls (undelivered car).
The following users liked this post:
Specracer23 (04-03-2021)


Quick Reply: Stop Sale on 718 GTS, Spyder & GT4



All times are GMT -3. The time now is 03:19 PM.