groundhog

The best upgrade you'll ever get is driver training.

thuggo

I think you are going to be very very surprised how many stupid people there are. I mean look at the last 2 years and how absurd the values on cars have gotten.

168glhs1986

I think you are wrong about this one. I also have both of these cars on order, 4 RS and the M4 CSL. BMW has already been built but stuck in waiting for carrier assignment for a month now. I think the M4 CSL will be flippable for $25k plus.

usctrojanGT3

Let those idiots pay those prices into a weakening economy because I work too hard for my money, it's a different time than last year or even 3 months ago. If I can't get a GT3RS at MSRP, I'm not buying it because my build MSPR is around $300k....simple as that. I'll just track my GT4RS while the prices come down.

Patrick3000

You are very funny. I have had my 991 Touring for four years and 12k miles, loved every minute of it. The 996 GT3 for two years and many track days loads of fun. You can’t take it with you. I have no idea what I will do with the GT4RS but it will be interesting figuring that out. Exactly who is the stupid one

sampelligrino

Hard to talk about the 4RS if you don't have the car... Sadly across the board for new Porsche GTs ADM, value, cost, allocation will dominate until (or unless) something changes

sampelligrino

Such idiots... we (anyone paying an ADM for a GT car) must not work hard for our money because we can't get MSRP like you, even in a weakening economy!

thuggo

Hey man thanks admitting you are bad with money. That dumb **** excuse of "You can't take it with you" is old as **** and just shows how ****ing stupid you are with money.

cafe_racer

I had the M4 DTM in the last gen, which I don't think you got in the US. It is like a slightly fancier M4 GTS. I liked the car, it did two things well, sounded obnoxious and great skids out of corners. It did depreciate like no tomorrow though going from $350k to $200k in 4 years even at Covid elevated prices.

Values aside, I think the 4RS will be a far better and faster track car than the CSL. I will miss the large trunk though! Nothing about the CSL excited me when it was launched, hence pulling out.

Also I'll get my 4RS in September, which is faster than I would have got the CSL.

cafe_racer

996 GT3 and 991 touring is an excellent combo of cars to have. Well played.

usctrojanGT3

I didn't say that, I just stated that I don't have the stomach to pay over $300k for non-limited 911 car. The idiots are the ones paying $100k-$250k ADMs for a GT4RS, GT3, and/or GT3RS, they can be ones that earned their money or trust funds babies or crypto millionaires....either way they are idiots for paying ADMs. Why would I pay $500k+ for a new GT3RS when I could get a better car for that money? I wouldn't. Hell, I would even get another high mileage 997 4L for that kind of money.

Patrick3000

Thank you 😊

The 4RS is due in February 2023

168glhs1986

Can we please stop saying 2022 plus GT cars aren't limited because that's just not true at all.

They are absolutely LIMITED they just aren't NUMBERED.

All semantics of course My defination of limited might be different than yours.

But when we are talking the possibility of 1500-2000 GT4 RS, I'd say that's LIMITED.

168glhs1986

As you know BMW is great at creating initial hype for their street cars, but not a great at creating a product that stands the test of time, M2CS and M5 CS not withstanding. And they aren't limited / numbered cars either.

To each their own in spending their own money but you got taken to the cleaners on the M4 DTM. Sorry about that.

SToronto

By your definition, one could say they are all limited. Time bound basically.

But I do agree, GT cars are much more limited. Limited meaning they simply don't build as many as they do the others and never enough.