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Old 11-24-2021, 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by 2slow2speed
Hopefully you do understand the efficiency gains going with a swan neck top mount vs the regular underside mount given a similar surface area wing. There is a reason why modern race cars use the swan neck top mount.
Swan neck attachments are not that much better than marketing would imply.
The improvement is extremely small for straight flowing air as only the thickness of the supports for under mounting is saved aero in the low pressure zone.
However ONLY for air that flows cross angle ( like in a very high speed turn) is the flow less disturbed on the under side, but is still disturbed on the upper side high pressure zone but to a lesser degree.

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Old 11-24-2021, 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by IRM
I hope these are not the lines to take for a future Spyder RS
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Old 11-24-2021, 12:46 PM
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Maybe I missed something but I don't see why the Weissach pack in this instance is required. From all I can see is your paying more for less paint. I thought and maybe I'm wrong that the hood and all other items are already carbon fiber on the standard RS.
Old 11-24-2021, 12:53 PM
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Nope
Old 11-24-2021, 01:13 PM
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CarAholic - " From all I can see is your paying more for less paint. "

I agree, the worst part is being forced into the WP if you choose to go PTS.
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Old 11-24-2021, 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by GAZZ
Swan neck attachments are not that much better than marketing would imply.
The improvement is extremely small for straight flowing air as only the thickness of the supports for under mounting is saved aero in the low pressure zone.
However ONLY for air that flows cross angle ( like in a very high speed turn) is the flow less disturbed on the under side, but is still disturbed on the upper side high pressure zone but to a lesser degree.
Some more reading material, it's not jus marketing.

http://www.mulsannescorner.com/rearwingLMPCFD2009.html
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https://www.wrcwings.tech/2018/08/08/aerodynamics-of-wrc-cars-sideways/


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Old 11-24-2021, 01:36 PM
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lol same convo being rehashed here as the GT3RS two years ago. It's not a secret, nor news, that the WP is just paying more for less paint. The panels are already carbon fiber. That said, the carbon fiber that's under the paint isn't the same finish/quality as the visible carbon that comes on the WP. So you are paying for that as well. That said, I really wish I had gotten WP on my 3RS. I passed on it because I didn't think it was worth the price. But after seeing GT3RS WP in person, I changed my mind. It really does look that much better IMO

And you'll forget about the price once you see your new car in the flesh for the first time.

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Old 11-24-2021, 01:48 PM
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assuming you like the race-tek interior, then having all that carbon included on the outside plus the intakes inside the car, it becomes a decent offering price-wise. I'm not a fan of the carbon hood, BUT.. when you add the CXX stripe which brings back some paint onto the hood, then it becomes a very attractive proposition.. question is how much is the CXX hood stripe?
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Originally Posted by CAlexio
assuming you like the race-tek interior, then having all that carbon included on the outside plus the intakes inside the car, it becomes a decent offering price-wise. I'm not a fan of the carbon hood, BUT.. when you add the CXX stripe which brings back some paint onto the hood, then it becomes a very attractive proposition.. question is how much is the CXX hood stripe?
Won't the hood stripes look weird with a solid roof? It worked on the GT2 RS because it continued over the carbon roof (I presume GT4 RS roof is not carbon).
Old 11-24-2021, 04:53 PM
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Exposed carbon fiber on a road car is the equivalent of having your car wear a gold chain.
Old 11-24-2021, 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Scrappy1972
Won't the hood stripes look weird with a solid roof? It worked on the GT2 RS because it continued over the carbon roof (I presume GT4 RS roof is not carbon).
Looks fine to me



Old 11-24-2021, 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Archimedes
Exposed carbon fiber on a road car is the equivalent of having your car wear a gold chain.
I was thinking truck nutz
Old 11-24-2021, 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Sean in Texas
Looks fine to me


interesting that the stripe starts again on the rear wing.
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Old 11-24-2021, 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Archimedes
Exposed carbon fiber on a road car is the equivalent of having your car wear a gold chain.
Hey, I resemble that remark



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Old 11-24-2021, 06:34 PM
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hood is okay but i don't like the painted wing.


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