718 GT4RS
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yeah, I was surprised that Henry Catchpole preferred the 812 GTS and its glorious v12 with the top up than down. But ... duh now I see.
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#2118
Originally Posted by Wild Weasel
The back of that looks like the front of the Pontiac Solstice.
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Originally Posted by Alan C.
And now it is designed to look like a broken New York sewer lid.
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Is the general consensus still for a November presentation at the L.A. Auto Show?
If the 992 RS will be slotted for the Geneva Show in 2022, then they do not have much of a window for the GT4 RS presentation in order for the "junior RS" to be in the spotlight before the big brother steals the media attention ...
If the 992 RS will be slotted for the Geneva Show in 2022, then they do not have much of a window for the GT4 RS presentation in order for the "junior RS" to be in the spotlight before the big brother steals the media attention ...
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yes, I'd say that's the latest guess
from my post #579 in July 2020 (in the middle of the pandemic)
this was strictly a guess based on charts by Petevb
based on Chris' info (post #44 and #287), I think the 475 hp GT4RS will start at $145,000 to $150,000
this will be the last NA Cayman produced (pure speculation on my part)
but the gears have to be grinding at PAG HQ right now regarding production numbers, both in total cars and when new models will be introduced
GT4RS between fall 2021 and spring 2022
so, for those thinking 450 hp...I think you will be wrong
and the $130k pricing will be low
450 hp and $130k were my initial guesses (until Chris3963 posted in Sep 2019 and early 2020)
We will know in a few months what the real numbers are
from my post #579 in July 2020 (in the middle of the pandemic)
this was strictly a guess based on charts by Petevb
based on Chris' info (post #44 and #287), I think the 475 hp GT4RS will start at $145,000 to $150,000
this will be the last NA Cayman produced (pure speculation on my part)
but the gears have to be grinding at PAG HQ right now regarding production numbers, both in total cars and when new models will be introduced
GT4RS between fall 2021 and spring 2022
so, for those thinking 450 hp...I think you will be wrong
and the $130k pricing will be low
450 hp and $130k were my initial guesses (until Chris3963 posted in Sep 2019 and early 2020)
We will know in a few months what the real numbers are
Is the general consensus still for a November presentation at the L.A. Auto Show?
If the 992 RS will be slotted for the Geneva Show in 2022, then they do not have much of a window for the GT4 RS presentation in order for the "junior RS" to be in the spotlight before the big brother steals the media attention ...
If the 992 RS will be slotted for the Geneva Show in 2022, then they do not have much of a window for the GT4 RS presentation in order for the "junior RS" to be in the spotlight before the big brother steals the media attention ...
Last edited by JSF101; 08-24-2021 at 12:01 PM. Reason: clarity
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cebe (08-24-2021)
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You could make a good argument that the selection of 982 was a marketing one, as the car is still largely a 981. It was done to correspond to the contemporary 911 (as done historically) and to provide the illusion the "982" is not as old as it is.
Porsche has for a while poached and borrowed numbers and, as you know, recently started using alphanumeric identifiers because they have no more room. The loyalty to 9## is at this point 100% for marketing and tradition. Unless they are running some sort of special computer system that won't allow anything other than a 9 as the first digit. Very few numbers are actually unused.
Motorsport did design and build a dual wishbone for the 991 chassis but the parts would be far too expensive for a street application, would require substantial geometry changes to the rear, and more training of personnel on the assembly line. The resulting GT4 RS would end up costing more than a GT3 RS.
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993RR (08-24-2021)
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Respectfully, I would argue quite the contrary. Many numbers have been selected on a marketing basis. 356 was picked purely for marketing and I suspect 901 was picked the same way. There was a logic applied to many numbers in the 60s and 80s, and a different but brief logic for the late 80s thru the 90s.
Go back and re-read more carefully what i wrote over the last few pages. You have apprehended a understanding completely in opposition to what I intended to describe,
For example, immediately above you completely misapprehended that what you quoted from me was a statement about internal “part numbers” not external model designations controlled by Marketing.
Motorsport did design and build a dual wishbone for the 991 chassis but the parts would be far too expensive for a street application, would require substantial geometry changes to the rear, and more training of personnel on the assembly line. The resulting GT4 RS would end up costing more than a GT3 RS.
And even if any of what you write was true, none of it is a dominant cost. It is the modeling and testing for, and actual, regulatory approval in every market (TUV, DOT, etc.) that dominates the cost of such a change.