Nicole

The very reputable German magazine Auto Motor und Sport has already put a Taycan Turbo S through a full test program. They measured all performance parameters, including power consumption and range.

They calculated that one can squeeze up to 415 km out of a full charge, which is about 259 miles. However, a commuter would see significantly less, and a "sports driver" would only see 215 km (134 miles):



Let's put the power draw in perspective. During the test program, the Taycan Turbo S consumed:

- 22.7 kWh/100km = 363 Wh/mile when driven in eco mode

- 32.9 kWh/100 km = 526 Wh/mile when used for commuting

- 43.8 kWh/100 km = 701 Wh/mile with a sports driver.

For comparison: My average over 18,000 miles with a Model S non-performance Dual drive is 329 Wh/mile. This is with Climate Control on all the time, and a brisk driving style.


Let me know, if you want to see any other data from the magazine's test results.

Needsdecaf

I have a freaking masters in engineering. I'm well aware of physics and how it works.

It's not just the weight. Period. Thanks for playing.

CarMaven

The performance test data in detail (though it may have been mentioned elsewhere, I think)!!?
We'd like to see it. Duh. LOL

Thanks.

Dyefrog

Not quite the data you were looking for but honest discussion.

RonF

Huh? Have you ever driven those you mentioned including bicycle even it has two "pedals".

Nicole

He who asks shall receive...

acoste

I thought I was pretty clear. Might be my English, because your response doesn't make sense.

acoste

These consumption numbers are based on the total energy coming from the wall connector. Includes the losses of the onboard charger and battery. That number is roughly 15% (varies from 12 to 18 over brands) higher than the car's consumption measured at the battery output (this latter is what's displayed on the instrument cluster).

Hard to judge these numbers as test conditions aren't shared. Elektrorunde has 30% highway section at 75mph. Avg speed for the rest is 32mph. That's all I figured out.

Nicole

What makes you think these numbers include charging losses?

acoste

Ladeenergie fur Volladung : 94,1kWh [Recharge energy]
Reichweite ams-Elektrorunde: 415km [range based on test cycle]
ams-Elektrorunde (Eco): 22.7kWh/100km [energy consumption under the test cycle]

22.7kWh/100km * 415km /100 = 94.2kWh

Taycan's total battery capacity is 93.4kWh, net capacity is 83.7kWh.

So the recharge energy is 83.7kWh plus charging losses = 94.1kWh in the AMS test. // disclaimer: it's not clear if AMS test includes discharging the bottom buffer as well

EPA hasn't shared exact numbers yet, but rough estimates showed 96 and 98kWh recharge energy.

Just an example: EPA used 94.249kWh energy to recharge the E-Tron which similarly has 83.7kWh net capacity: https://iaspub.epa.gov/otaqpub/displ...d=48427&flag=1

Nicole

Wow, good catch! They didn't apply the foot note (1) to the consumption data, so I thought it would be actual draw from the battery.

My value from the Tesla dual drive is actual consumption from the battery, I believe.

umwolverine

Airplane and bicycle yes, but never driven a train. I'm not sure what you meant by your statement below, but being an engineer with a Masters and experience working in a number of industries including automotive, your statement "Every engineering product is designed this way" is simply incorrect. In fact, most machines that transport people are designed with a power supply (engine, motor, human leg), and a brake as a separate element.

In engineering perspective one pedal driving is the most normal and natural way to control output. Push to increase output and pull to decrease it. Every engineering product is designed this way.

evanevery

Wow...

I've been gone for a couple of weeks and I gotta say I don't miss the crap in this forum...

Bob Roberts

good news then! People don’t miss you and your negativity (like the above) either!

try going away for a couple months or years this time!

Whoopsy

Tesla employees have a habit of twisting facts to fit their arguments. Don't mind him.