Taycan Turbo - EPA rated 201 miles
#481
It is stunning on how many people defend a brand when the brand does not have a multi mission EV. I don’t defend Tesla (at times they seem f-ed up for sure), and I don’t defend Porsche. I bought both cars for the mission.
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JB43 (12-23-2019)
#482
for trips > 200mi, I fly. Sorry, life too short, kids, cross country road trips just out. And most American fly cross country now too.
#483
where your idea of “lots” is “almost none”. The average trip length is 30mi. 3000mi is more than most people drive in 3 months. https://www.sciencedirect.com/scienc...91261516309067
for trips > 200mi, I fly. Sorry, life too short, kids, cross country road trips just out. And most American fly cross country now too.
for trips > 200mi, I fly. Sorry, life too short, kids, cross country road trips just out. And most American fly cross country now too.
You are totally missing my point. One day VAG EV’s might be the one we all clamor for. But not today. Their efficiency and charging network are both abysmal. I hope that changes as I really like the brand and will buy one when the vehicle meets the mission. I’ll be happy to say adios to Tesla's poor fit and finish. But the performance of the Tesla in terms of range and charging network can’t be beat at the moment.
I am out of this thread. Nite all!
#484
800 mile trip...That trip happens all the time, at least for most of the people I know. The VAG vehicles can’t make this trip, at least not in a day, and in some cases not at all.
But the performance of the Tesla in terms of range and charging network can’t be beat at the moment.
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But the performance of the Tesla in terms of range and charging network can’t be beat at the moment.
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when you say happens all the time and refer to a one day trip, are you saying the people you know travel 800 miles a day every day (eg all the time).
The performance of a Tesla “in terms of range and charging stations” can be easily beat by a $20k Toyota Corolla.
#485
Now it’s time to say ‘nite.
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#486
a lot of VAG vehicles can do 800 miles in a day and may only need at most two 5 minute stops at the gas station. A Tesla can’t beat that.
when you say happens all the time and refer to a one day trip, are you saying the people you know travel 800 miles a day every day (eg all the time).
The performance of a Tesla “in terms of range and charging stations” can be easily beat by a $20k Toyota Corolla.
when you say happens all the time and refer to a one day trip, are you saying the people you know travel 800 miles a day every day (eg all the time).
The performance of a Tesla “in terms of range and charging stations” can be easily beat by a $20k Toyota Corolla.
Wow, just wow.
#487
Burning Brakes
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AlexCeres (12-21-2019)
#488
I said I was gone, but just put picked up on this. You fly for any trip over 200 miles? Really? Do you own a Gulfstream? S** , for a 250 mile trip, by the time I drove to the airport, struggled with TSA, waited for the late airplane, arrived at my destination and then got my rental car, I could have driven and be in the hotel room enjoying some n**kie. You live on a different planet than I do.
Now it’s time to say ‘nite.
Now it’s time to say ‘nite.
Even by EPA estimates, a taycan will clear 300mi with a single 20 minute DC charge. For most people and most car trips, this is plenty. For Porsche owners, who almost all have another car in the household, it’s fine. That you don’t want it has nothing to do with what’s possible or what most people use cars for.
#489
One would presume that anyone who can figure out how to fund a Taycan can also decide whether range/charging options work for their use-case or not. If you can have only one (family) car and plan regular 3000 mile road trips, a Taycan may not be not your best bet. For most, this is a complete straw man.
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AlexCeres (12-21-2019)
#490
When you get one in your hands, could be possible, PlugShare app, might be a cool challenge
#491
Charging
Not that ElectrifyAmerica has anything to do with Toyota, but...
In Southern California, land of the EV, there are a plethora of charging stations! Even without ElectrifyAmerica, which will be free to Porsche Taycan owners, there are DC chargers everywhere. They are not broken, they are not full, they really are easy to use. Download the Chargepoint app if you have doubts.
ElectrifyAmerica will be a great network in a year or two and you can be sure it will produce because it’s court mandated under Dieselgate.
About 15% of the folks I work with have plugin hybrids if not EVs. It’s a sea change from five years ago.
In Southern California, land of the EV, there are a plethora of charging stations! Even without ElectrifyAmerica, which will be free to Porsche Taycan owners, there are DC chargers everywhere. They are not broken, they are not full, they really are easy to use. Download the Chargepoint app if you have doubts.
ElectrifyAmerica will be a great network in a year or two and you can be sure it will produce because it’s court mandated under Dieselgate.
About 15% of the folks I work with have plugin hybrids if not EVs. It’s a sea change from five years ago.
#492
... it’s called SouthWest, and it’ll take me to LA or Vegas for less than half the cost in gas alone of my ice car. 200mi radius covers a lot, and most urban destinations across the country are cheaper to reach by airplane. The flight itself will be at least 5x faster. Nobody drives to the airport anymore when they can Uber and skip the total rip off that is airport parking lots. TSA is a bitch, alas.
Even by EPA estimates, a taycan will clear 300mi with a single 20 minute DC charge. For most people and most car trips, this is plenty. For Porsche owners, who almost all have another car in the household, it’s fine. That you don’t want it has nothing to do with what’s possible or what most people use cars for.
Even by EPA estimates, a taycan will clear 300mi with a single 20 minute DC charge. For most people and most car trips, this is plenty. For Porsche owners, who almost all have another car in the household, it’s fine. That you don’t want it has nothing to do with what’s possible or what most people use cars for.
My car wouldn't even burn a tank of fuel in 3 hours. Unless you're purchasing the cheapest southwest fare way in advance you're definitely not saving money. Further, a second passenger doubles your price.
Unless you own the plane and are flying for pleasure - flying is for destinations longer than 5 or 6 hour drives.
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JB43 (12-23-2019)
#493
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Look around parking lots, how hard it is to place a car within 2 white lines? Lots of people can't even do that.
Stay right unless passing on highway, simple enough, how many are doing it?
Red lights means stop. Yet many runs them.
Paying attention to the road when engaging Tesla's autopilot, how many accidents happened already cause the driver isn't?
And my favourite, flat Earth.
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cpd1 (12-24-2019)
#494
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Originally Posted by BrassFactory
Not that ElectrifyAmerica has anything to do with Toyota, but...
In Southern California, land of the EV, there are a plethora of charging stations! Even without ElectrifyAmerica, which will be free to Porsche Taycan owners, there are DC chargers everywhere. They are not broken, they are not full, they really are easy to use. Download the Chargepoint app if you have doubts.
ElectrifyAmerica will be a great network in a year or two and you can be sure it will produce because it’s court mandated under Dieselgate.
About 15% of the folks I work with have plugin hybrids if not EVs. It’s a sea change from five years ago.
In Southern California, land of the EV, there are a plethora of charging stations! Even without ElectrifyAmerica, which will be free to Porsche Taycan owners, there are DC chargers everywhere. They are not broken, they are not full, they really are easy to use. Download the Chargepoint app if you have doubts.
ElectrifyAmerica will be a great network in a year or two and you can be sure it will produce because it’s court mandated under Dieselgate.
About 15% of the folks I work with have plugin hybrids if not EVs. It’s a sea change from five years ago.
We definitely have a ways to go.
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JB43 (12-23-2019)
#495
Matt Farrah had a Taycan recently and also an iPace a few months ago. He reported major issues finding public charging. He lives in Venice and works in Playa. Should have had a much easier time. When he has the Taycan, he noted that the one EA location he went to had only two High speed chargers...and one was broken.
We definitely have a ways to go.
We definitely have a ways to go.
That’s why I mention ChargePoint. They have 5 locations within 10 miles of him. There are more close to downtown. EA has a lot of planned locations, but as many of their deals are with Walmart, the west side will suffer a bit.
For me public charging is for trips. With a usual 200 mile charge I’ve never used a public charger between work and home except as an excuse to get a good parking space.