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Old 10-09-2020, 05:11 PM
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Working on a txn lately, caught off guard that the bank/cu I talked to would only evaluate the car around 40k or so, guess someone in kbb/nada needs to hang out on BAT more often lol
Finally getting it done now. Worked with DCU, although they would only value the car around 40s, they can have ltv up to 110% or 120% ish (didn't remember exactly) So in the end I can still finance the amount I planned to . And they work with small indy dealers unlike Boa I first talked to. Great rates too 1.99% after setting up the direct deposit so am recommending it to fellow RLers.
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1.99 on a car that’s 10 yrs old? I’ve never seen that! Heck, I don’t think I’ve seen rates that low on brand new cars (outside of Ford 0% a while back)
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On bringatrailer.com, 2011 Spyder #403 just popped up with a copy of the Monroney sticker shown in the auction photos. This looks to be an early/cheaper 2011 Spyder with interesting price data: Base Price $61,200; Heated Seats $510; Sport Chrono Plus $960; Sport Exhaust $2500. These prices seem to jibe with my msrp reconstruction for my Spyder #248. Other option prices given for #403 seem to be the unchanging ones throughout 2011/2012 production. Of interest, but not relevant to my Spyder's price search, #403 has the Red Natural Leather Interior at $3895 (the most expensive leather option, I believe, except for the Special Cocoa at $?), and the Red Instrument Dial Faces at $690. This is still of no help for my question as to what my Sand Beige Full Leather Interior w/sofa seats were priced at since the usually accepted price of $3655 does not result in the correct final msrp for my car. So I am still on the look out for more 2011 Monroneys for early Spyders.

How do you figure out the # of your car? My Spyder was built 3/10/2010, VIN ends in 745173, and commission number is 711366. Thanks!
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Originally Posted by Yc911Kid
Finally getting it done now. Worked with DCU, although they would only value the car around 40s, they can have ltv up to 110% or 120% ish (didn't remember exactly) So in the end I can still finance the amount I planned to . And they work with small indy dealers unlike Boa I first talked to. Great rates too 1.99% after setting up the direct deposit so am recommending it to fellow RLers.
Thanks for sharing the info. Let me look into DCU. Did you work with a specific agent or just applied directly online
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Thanks for sharing the info. Let me look into DCU. Did you work with a specific agent or just applied directly online
I applied online first, then was notified need to join their member to proceed, same deal as most other CUs. Signed up with the lowest cost org($10) & opened free checking/saving acct. Rate before direct deposit would be 2.49 but since I need to auto pay monthly I set up a dd to get 1.99. I was told this by the officer during the call after the initial application. It won't be automatic you need to let them know you will be setting it up so they can give out the lower rate. If you don't set it up in 3 months the rate goes back up, that's what I was told.
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Originally Posted by WAILN6
1.99 on a car that’s 10 yrs old? I’ve never seen that! Heck, I don’t think I’ve seen rates that low on brand new cars (outside of Ford 0% a while back)
I'm actually surprised too. Boa rate was close to 3, but they don't deal with indy/non franchised dealer.
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Originally Posted by motoken
How do you figure out the # of your car? My Spyder was built 3/10/2010, VIN ends in 745173, and commission number is 711366. Thanks!
# = last three digits of the Spyder’s VIN.

A useful database is provided by:
https://vinanalytics.com/
Just punch in the last 5 digits of your VIN into the box and a choice of several Porsche full VINs pop up. Select the one id’d as a Spyder. Note that the 2012 Spyders share the same last-5 with the early 2011s (the year identifier is earlier in the VIN sequence). It is fun to waste time punching in other VINs differing in the last two digits to see the specs of Spyders built around the same time as your own car.

I have been using that database to try and uncover a mystery. My 2011 Spyder is one of supposedly only 18 Aqua Blue ones built that year for North America. But in the earlier postings in this thread on production numbers by color, I can only find 17 such Spyders (one AB car is duplicated in the postings). I spent a couple of hours random walking through vinanalytics trying to find that 18th AB Spyder. No luck. So maybe only 17 AB Spyders were built for the 2011 NA market?
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Originally Posted by SCMike
# = last three digits of the Spyder’s VIN.

A useful database is provided by:
https://vinanalytics.com/
Just punch in the last 5 digits of your VIN into the box and a choice of several Porsche full VINs pop up. Select the one id’d as a Spyder. Note that the 2012 Spyders share the same last-5 with the early 2011s (the year identifier is earlier in the VIN sequence). It is fun to waste time punching in other VINs differing in the last two digits to see the specs of Spyders built around the same time as your own car.

I have been using that database to try and uncover a mystery. My 2011 Spyder is one of supposedly only 18 Aqua Blue ones built that year for North America. But in the earlier postings in this thread on production numbers by color, I can only find 17 such Spyders (one AB car is duplicated in the postings). I spent a couple of hours random walking through vinanalytics trying to find that 18th AB Spyder. No luck. So maybe only 17 AB Spyders were built for the 2011 NA market?

So following that logic, my Spyder would have been the 175th produced? Being a March 2010 build, I suspected it would have been a lower production number. When did production begin on these cars?

Being the fourth owner of my Spyder, the original window sticker was lost long ago. I do have a genuine Porsche COA and the Vinanlyics products for my VIN. I found it interesting that the MSRPs are different on both products. COA was $74245 and Vinanalytics was $75195. First time I have seen that difference, and I've researched a lot of P cars. When I itemized all the options and applied the prices in this database on this website, the number came up even higher: $77975. Interesting...

Oh well, at least it is fun to drive!

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Originally Posted by motoken
So following that logic, my Spyder would have been the 175th produced? Being a March 2010 build, I suspected it would have been a lower production number. When did production begin on these cars?

Being the fourth owner of my Spyder, the original window sticker was lost long ago. I do have a genuine Porsche COA and the Vinanlyics products for my VIN. I found it interesting that the MSRPs are different on both products. COA was $74245 and Vinanalytics was $75195. First time I have seen that difference, and I've researched a lot of P cars. When I itemized all the options and applied the prices in this database on this website, the number came up even higher: $77975. Interesting...

Oh well, at least it is fun to drive!
Porsche COA’s have been inconsistent for years which is frustrating when you consider they’re the source and should have and be able to convey accurate records! I had a 1990 928 GT with 29 options codes and fortunately I still had the window sticker which listed all the options. I ordered a COA from Porsche and it was missing about 5 of the options. Porsche’s latest COA appears to be a bit more involved with a full inspection of the car to confirm what it has/had when new so perhaps someone is actually going into the archives and pulling the build sheets rather than relying on a computer database that was manually assembled by a summer intern?
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Originally Posted by motoken
So following that logic, my Spyder would have been the 175th produced? Being a March 2010 build, I suspected it would have been a lower production number. When did production begin on these cars?

Being the fourth owner of my Spyder, the original window sticker was lost long ago. I do have a genuine Porsche COA and the Vinanlyics products for my VIN. I found it interesting that the MSRPs are different on both products. COA was $74245 and Vinanalytics was $75195. First time I have seen that difference, and I've researched a lot of P cars. When I itemized all the options and applied the prices in this database on this website, the number came up even higher: $77975. Interesting...

Oh well, at least it is fun to drive!
Pecking around vinanalytics, it looks like the first North American production Spyder was 745064 in Jan 2010. Three more were produced in Jan: 065, 066, 067. The first in Feb 2010 was 068, so things got off to a slow start. Your 745175 is indeed an early NA production Spyder, cranked out in the third month. The early Spyder prices are a bit wonky. I have given up trying to reproduce the sticker price for my 745248 from the "commonly known" individual option prices. As you have found out, that exercise always results in too high a price. No one seems to have consistent option price data for the early Spyders, especially those loaded with options (like mine) - seems like those were significantly cheaper than the later Spyders.
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Originally Posted by motoken
Being the fourth owner of my Spyder, the original window sticker was lost long ago. I do have a genuine Porsche COA and the Vinanlyics products for my VIN. I found it interesting that the MSRPs are different on both products. COA was $74245 and Vinanalytics was $75195. First time I have seen that difference, and I've researched a lot of P cars. When I itemized all the options and applied the prices in this database on this website, the number came up even higher: $77975. Interesting...

Oh well, at least it is fun to drive!
That $950 difference between your COA and Vinanalytics prices might just be the destination charge, which is coincidentally $950.
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Originally Posted by SCMike
That $950 difference between your COA and Vinanalytics prices might just be the destination charge, which is coincidentally $950.
Good point! Thanks!
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Originally Posted by SCMike
# = last three digits of the Spyder’s VIN.

A useful database is provided by:
https://vinanalytics.com/
Just punch in the last 5 digits of your VIN into the box and a choice of several Porsche full VINs pop up. Select the one id’d as a Spyder. Note that the 2012 Spyders share the same last-5 with the early 2011s (the year identifier is earlier in the VIN sequence). It is fun to waste time punching in other VINs differing in the last two digits to see the specs of Spyders built around the same time as your own car.

I have been using that database to try and uncover a mystery. My 2011 Spyder is one of supposedly only 18 Aqua Blue ones built that year for North America. But in the earlier postings in this thread on production numbers by color, I can only find 17 such Spyders (one AB car is duplicated in the postings). I spent a couple of hours random walking through vinanalytics trying to find that 18th AB Spyder. No luck. So maybe only 17 AB Spyders were built for the 2011 NA market?

The last 5 on my 2012 are 45103. What number car would it be?
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Originally Posted by alemaniac
The last 5 on my 2012 are 45103. What number car would it be?
It looks like in vinanalytics that the first MY2012 Spyder produced for North America was 745061 in April 2011. 061 had a pretty hefty MSRP in excess of $93K (assuming that was not in loonies). Yours would be the 103-61+1=43rd? of MY2012.
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Originally Posted by SCMike
It looks like in vinanalytics that the first MY2012 Spyder produced for North America was 745061 in April 2011. 061 had a pretty hefty MSRP in excess of $93K (assuming that was not in loonies). Yours would be the 103-61+1=43rd? of MY2012.
Interesting. Thanks! From the posting of all the build sheets, I had determined mine was the last Blue North American spec car, but I curious as to overall production number of my car or at least overall North American car number.


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