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Old 07-31-2024 | 12:29 PM
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It started going downhill here too even before COVID, as there's only one Porsche dealer in town . They sell to known flippers who then reflip through dealer, that type of stuff. No thanks. They were forcing a minimum of $20k of options on a Cayenne Platinum (that has a bunch of baked in options to start with) I bought my Cayenne from a dealership 3 hours away because they didn't force a minimum of options on me. I passed on a Spyder RS allocation because they forced so many options. Frankly putting $50k of options on a Boxster is nuts and the MSRP for those cars is way too high anyway.
Old 07-31-2024 | 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by 997turbocab
That that bad to good or good to bad?
Good to downright atrocious...
Old 07-31-2024 | 12:46 PM
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....be grateful (tongue in cheek) you guys especially in the GTA have the choices you do.
Ottawa, we have MM.

I keep trying to give them money.
They keep on MM'ing.

the 2 hour drive to Lauzon has been far more accommodating in every way.

This goes back years, right up to this week.
*tisk*
Old 07-31-2024 | 12:49 PM
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Id much rather go to my local Indy(2 good shops near me) than any dealer.. Not only since it will be half the price or less BUT I wont have to deal with there Scammy practices.
Old 07-31-2024 | 01:51 PM
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If you want to be treated like royalty, go to the Four Seasons. That is their business 24/7.
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Old 07-31-2024 | 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by moab
If you want to be treated like royalty, go to the Four Seasons. That is their business 24/7.
Yep. and maybe a tad stalkerish. Number of years ago I was staying at Vancouver Four Seasons for work. I arrived late due to AC delays in Toronto. At check-in, she's like "a little birdy told me you were going to be late". I am assuming she looked me up and saw I tweeted to AC about the delay, while in Toronto.

Side bar, they spent little over 1 hour trying to fix the seat back entertainment for all. So what is a 5 hr flight now became 6 with no seat back. Just go already, people can deal without it. Haha.

Old 07-31-2024 | 02:03 PM
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Yup and he's on his 3rd marriage...wonder why?! LOL.

I will say GM still has its share of country bumpkins that likely only have highschool education and get into these finance roles and can't comprehend anything. I've seen it previously at family run or rural dealerships...
Haha.

And funny you say that, I bought from a large dealer out of town. In what was farm country and they service farm country customers too. Family run dealer enterprise. I will say again, sales was top notch. They had guys on facetime with me showing me stuff to be helpful in making the deal work remotely until I was ready to come in and drive it. Dealt with Sales Manager when I went to drive 2 vehicles, made a deal in the parking lot. Easy peasy. Harder with the local dealer and no discount locally either.
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Old 07-31-2024 | 02:44 PM
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My worst experiences have been at BMW and Range Rover. I've never walked into dealerships had felt invisible.

Porsche, Mercedes and Lexus have been great to our family. GM and Ford are....they are what they are lol It works.
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Canada is a small and expensive market to operate in. Limited amount of units per year and dealerships that are mostly owned by large corporations or publicly traded corps. The minimum amount of options is absolutely real.. There are only a handful of good dealers left



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Old 07-31-2024 | 09:12 PM
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The dealerships do not decide how many of the limited cars they are allocated- Porsche does.

Evidently if they are selling downspec cars with less margin this is going to affect how many of the limited or hot cars they get. Thus they are incented to sell cars with a reasonable amount of options. It is not like selling floor models of the past. Canada competes on the global market for cars and as noted above it is a small market. I think things will be easier in the short term because the Chinese market has tanked for Porsche and there is also a bit less liquidity around here. Good time to shop around.
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PCNA set the average option spend at $22,000 per car for the dealer to maintain their allocations. They are rewarded for beating this number with additional allocations. My car was one of the extra allocations and I did not have a minimum spend requested. I was at $13k if I recall correctly.

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Old 08-01-2024 | 12:30 AM
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Originally Posted by RDMcG
The dealerships do not decide how many of the limited cars they are allocated- Porsche does.

Evidently if they are selling downspec cars with less margin this is going to affect how many of the limited or hot cars they get. Thus they are incented to sell cars with a reasonable amount of options. It is not like selling floor models of the past. Canada competes on the global market for cars and as noted above it is a small market. I think things will be easier in the short term because the Chinese market has tanked for Porsche and there is also a bit less liquidity around here. Good time to shop around.
Porsche sales are down what 20-25% in China? Money has dried up there and it’s drying up here. Soon *gasp* Porsche will have to sell to it’s traditional long time buyers. Dont worry what Porsche sells in Canada in one year is similar to what gets sold in the NYC area…We barely crack 10k units and the bulk of that is Macan..40% roughly while 911s are about 20%

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Old 08-01-2024 | 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Gregster
Porsche sales are down what 20-25% in China? Money has dried up there and it’s drying up here. Soon *gasp* Porsche will have to sell to its traditional long time buyers. Dont worry what Porsche sells in Canada in one year is similar to what gets sold in the NYC area…We barely crack 10k units and the bulk of that is Macan..40% roughly while 911s are about 20%
Porsche is down 33% in China and has changed leadership. BMW is also hurting:

https://brandequity.economictimes.in...lump/111884465


https://www.reuters.com/business/aut...q2-2024-08-01/


Old 08-01-2024 | 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by RDMcG
Porsche is down 33% in China and has changed leadership. BMW is also hurting:

https://brandequity.economictimes.in...lump/111884465


https://www.reuters.com/business/aut...q2-2024-08-01/
im not sure its a leadership problem…
Old 08-01-2024 | 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by moab
If you want to be treated like royalty, go to the Four Seasons. That is their business 24/7.
or the brass rail a short walk away


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