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Old 07-30-2021 | 12:56 PM
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Old 07-30-2021 | 01:23 PM
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Old 07-30-2021 | 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Bud Fox
Some people cannot get vaccines due to allergies or adverse reactions that could kill them.

Should we be respectful of their choice to live or discriminate against them? Maybe capital punishment is appropriate?
First of all, your statement that "Some people cannot get vaccines due to allergies or adverse reactions that could kill them" is simply not true. There is no established causal link between an mRNA vaccine and death. As for those that have had an allergic reaction to the first dose (including a severe one - anaphylaxis - that occurs in 2 to 5 cases per million and is exactly why they make you wait for 15 minutes after you receive the first dose just in case), an antihistamine is apparently all that is required before they get the second one. This is from a new study published in Jama a few days ago.

And, even if there were people who cannot receive the vaccine, there certainly are those who may not be able to receive it a given time or those that are immunocompromised and the vaccine may be ineffective. What the rest of us healthy adults should do is help them by getting a vaccine shot ourselves. No one is asking you to go fight in Normandy. We are asking you to get a little pin ***** that so far hasn't killed anyone. And no, capital punishment is not appropriate, ever... even in cases of extreme idiocy like yours.
Old 07-30-2021 | 03:24 PM
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This thread is why you shouldnt go to forums or social media for health advice....

ever....

It's on par with the story about the neighbor's wife's former roommate back in university who's mom's coworker had the bad reaction to some medicine that she took to get rid of that rash that no one ever ones to speak of....
.....

Maybe when someone asks me for a recommendation on a medication, i'll say, yeah I saw it on page 3 on that thread on RennList.
Old 07-30-2021 | 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by 928gt
First of all, your statement that "Some people cannot get vaccines due to allergies or adverse reactions that could kill them" is simply not true. There is no established causal link between an mRNA vaccine and death. As for those that have had an allergic reaction to the first dose (including a severe one - anaphylaxis - that occurs in 2 to 5 cases per million and is exactly why they make you wait for 15 minutes after you receive the first dose just in case), an antihistamine is apparently all that is required before they get the second one. This is from a new study published in Jama a few days ago.

And, even if there were people who cannot receive the vaccine, there certainly are those who may not be able to receive it a given time or those that are immunocompromised and the vaccine may be ineffective. What the rest of us healthy adults should do is help them by getting a vaccine shot ourselves. No one is asking you to go fight in Normandy. We are asking you to get a little pin ***** that so far hasn't killed anyone. And no, capital punishment is not appropriate, ever... even in cases of extreme idiocy like yours.
https://covid-101.org/science/how-ma...ne-in-the-u-s/

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Old 07-30-2021 | 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Bud Fox
Some people cannot get vaccines due to allergies or adverse reactions that could kill them.
Should we be respectful of their choice to live or discriminate against them? Maybe capital punishment is appropriate?
1. is that YOUR excuse? have you had a life threatening reaction to a vaccine? no.
2. that's rich, respecting people is your mantra? like you really care about other people? if you cared you would get the vaccine to prevent disease transmission to try and prevent other people from becoming seriously ill.
puhlease, your arguments are juvenile and nonsensical.
Old 07-30-2021 | 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Bud Fox
so you never take tylenol or advil or any medication of any kind. 450 deaths per year from acetaminophen alone.
Are you out pounding the pavement about that right now too?
Life is full of risks, and vaccines are one but almost negligible to worry about my friend.
You are far more likely to die in a car crash, so you don't drive either? lol
Old 07-30-2021 | 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by CanuckGT4
1. is that YOUR excuse? have you had a life threatening reaction to a vaccine? no.
2. that's rich, respecting people is your mantra? like you really care about other people? if you cared you would get the vaccine to prevent disease transmission to try and prevent other people from becoming seriously ill.
puhlease, your arguments are juvenile and nonsensical.
as a liberal supporter i want to stand up for those who are marginalized and discriminated against

you are oppressing those who cannot get vaccines due to health reasons

this isn't about me as my medical info is between me and medcan
Old 07-30-2021 | 05:35 PM
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Old 07-30-2021 | 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Bud Fox
......this isn't about me as my medical info is between me and medcan
This means you didn't get it.
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Old 07-31-2021 | 09:47 AM
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So who thinks we are heading towards another lockdown? Beaten with the ugly stick Tam sure sounded like that during her press conference. Liberals will package another shutdown as a wholesome and prudent thing to do. "You got vaccinated but sadly due to variants of concern we can't risk the lives of the ones we love"
Old 07-31-2021 | 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Gregster
So who thinks we are heading towards another lockdown? Beaten with the ugly stick Tam sure sounded like that during her press conference. Liberals will package another shutdown as a wholesome and prudent thing to do. "You got vaccinated but sadly due to variants of concern we can't risk the lives of the ones we love"
government should just let covid kill off the unvaccinated and keep everything open in the interim.
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Old 07-31-2021 | 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Gregster
So who thinks we are heading towards another lockdown? Beaten with the ugly stick Tam sure sounded like that during her press conference. Liberals will package another shutdown as a wholesome and prudent thing to do. "You got vaccinated but sadly due to variants of concern we can't risk the lives of the ones we love"
I think it's coming sooner than Trudeau's election strategists fear...lol
Old 07-31-2021 | 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by moab
government should just let covid kill off the unvaccinated and keep everything open in the interim.
This.

It's their choice, if they want to gamble against covid I say have at it...
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Old 07-31-2021 | 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by .2PDK
This.

It's their choice, if they want to gamble against covid I say have at it...
unless a doctor certifies a reason they shouldn't take a vaccine they should be on the hook for the medical bills and if hospitals overloaded they should get treated last, and they should be monetarily responsible for any spreading of the virus.
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