COVID AND Vaccinations
07-29-2021, 04:48 PM
#257
Captain Obvious
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I was going to put in on my antivaxxer neighbour's rear glass.
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07-29-2021, 04:50 PM
#258
Captain Obvious
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Low income covid effects:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7756168/
https://www.ama-assn.org/delivering-...d-poverty-race
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toron...tion-1.5566384
I know the last one is the CBC, and if I was presenting a paper on the topic, I wouldn't use them. But I am assuming you wanted general reading, and will not be peer reviewing my posts.
Low income health outcomes:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1525295/
https://www.aafp.org/about/policies/...ty-health.html
http://www.hqontario.ca/portals/0/do...-report-en.pdf
Low income trust in traditional medicine:
https://www.healthaffairs.org/do/10....1.056138/full/
https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/corona...tudy-1.5368415
Blast. There is the Canadian media again. Probably just spewing (L)iberal propaganda anyways.
Children missing from school enrolment, and income:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/educa...3e2_story.html
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/cana...s-as-covid-19/
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toron...tdsb-1.5765426
There is less academic study here.
Let me know how many other sources you want. I would rather discuss if you think that our now executed plan will or won't have long term benefits or problems. I don't think we can realistically argue about the short term effects; they are what they are. But I am sure someone else will be offended by my characterization of people with no training in public policy being ill suited to making public policy.
Flame away!
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7756168/
https://www.ama-assn.org/delivering-...d-poverty-race
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toron...tion-1.5566384
I know the last one is the CBC, and if I was presenting a paper on the topic, I wouldn't use them. But I am assuming you wanted general reading, and will not be peer reviewing my posts.
Low income health outcomes:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1525295/
https://www.aafp.org/about/policies/...ty-health.html
http://www.hqontario.ca/portals/0/do...-report-en.pdf
Low income trust in traditional medicine:
https://www.healthaffairs.org/do/10....1.056138/full/
https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/corona...tudy-1.5368415
Blast. There is the Canadian media again. Probably just spewing (L)iberal propaganda anyways.
Children missing from school enrolment, and income:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/educa...3e2_story.html
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/cana...s-as-covid-19/
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toron...tdsb-1.5765426
There is less academic study here.
Let me know how many other sources you want. I would rather discuss if you think that our now executed plan will or won't have long term benefits or problems. I don't think we can realistically argue about the short term effects; they are what they are. But I am sure someone else will be offended by my characterization of people with no training in public policy being ill suited to making public policy.
Flame away!
07-29-2021, 05:34 PM
#259
And yes, I am afraid an unvaccinated person will infect me with a disease I've been vaccinated against. Just like I'm afraid for my children to attend school with children who are also unvaccinated - because their parents insist on getting their vaccine information from the plumber and Jenny McCarthy.
Feel free to start a new country for only unvaccinated people. Let me know how long it lasts.
07-29-2021, 06:14 PM
#260
Won't nature take care of all the unvaccinated one way or the other?
07-30-2021, 10:07 AM
#262
Captain Obvious
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07-30-2021, 10:23 AM
#263
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07-30-2021, 11:25 AM
#266
Burning Brakes
All this does is prove how uneducated about vaccines you both are.
And yes, I am afraid an unvaccinated person will infect me with a disease I've been vaccinated against. Just like I'm afraid for my children to attend school with children who are also unvaccinated - because their parents insist on getting their vaccine information from the plumber and Jenny McCarthy.
Feel free to start a new country for only unvaccinated people. Let me know how long it lasts.
And yes, I am afraid an unvaccinated person will infect me with a disease I've been vaccinated against. Just like I'm afraid for my children to attend school with children who are also unvaccinated - because their parents insist on getting their vaccine information from the plumber and Jenny McCarthy.
Feel free to start a new country for only unvaccinated people. Let me know how long it lasts.
Shouldn't you feel just as afraid of being infected by someone who is already vaccinated? I mean they are probably going to have far less symptoms while still carrying the disease?
As for your children...they all pick their nose and scratch their butts lol Covid is probably the least of your worries.
Can I recommend purchasing a Bubble and living in it?
07-30-2021, 11:33 AM
#267
Just reading some of the posts here is amazing ! Cognitive dissonance and mass hysteria have taken over! The most amazing part of all of this is that history is never kind to those that oppress and force others.
When there is no risk in society of any kind there is no freedom and no society can be built on denial of individual freedom.
Worthwhile quote: The oppressor would not be so strong if he did not have accomplices among the oppressed.
When there is no risk in society of any kind there is no freedom and no society can be built on denial of individual freedom.
Worthwhile quote: The oppressor would not be so strong if he did not have accomplices among the oppressed.
07-30-2021, 11:42 AM
#268
Burning Brakes
Shouldn't you feel just as afraid of being infected by someone who is already vaccinated? I mean they are probably going to have far less symptoms while still carrying the disease?
As for your children...they all pick their nose and scratch their butts lol Covid is probably the least of your worries.
Can I recommend purchasing a Bubble and living in it?
As for your children...they all pick their nose and scratch their butts lol Covid is probably the least of your worries.
Can I recommend purchasing a Bubble and living in it?
Whatever children may get from scratching their butts or picking their noses is not contagious. COVID-19 is.
As for the bubble, absolutely. You should lead by example... get one and live in it. A real bubble, not the one with the intellectual vacuum that you are already living in.
Last edited by 928gt; 07-30-2021 at 11:43 AM. Reason: sp
07-30-2021, 11:53 AM
#269
Burning Brakes
Ok, let's make this simple so people can understand.
1. unvaccinated people pass it between themselves mostly, causing mild illness in most and severe in a few. It's unnecessary, why would you want to get a disease when you could prevent it in the first place? There is no medal for going through an illness like this.
2. more people getting severe problems put an unnecessary burden and cost on the medical system which we all have to pay. well the ones who work do.
3. constant surges in infections lead to having to wear masks, travel restrictions etc... some people don't care about that but others do. do we want to be in a perennial state of lockdown where we can't do things because someone is too afraid of a vaccine? silly.
vaccinated people are NOT afraid of you, we just want to get back to normal life. why is that so hard to understand?
the more pertinent question is, why are YOU so afraid of a vaccine that is safe and effective. get your big boy pants on and get with the rest of society and don't be such a burden.
1. unvaccinated people pass it between themselves mostly, causing mild illness in most and severe in a few. It's unnecessary, why would you want to get a disease when you could prevent it in the first place? There is no medal for going through an illness like this.
2. more people getting severe problems put an unnecessary burden and cost on the medical system which we all have to pay. well the ones who work do.
3. constant surges in infections lead to having to wear masks, travel restrictions etc... some people don't care about that but others do. do we want to be in a perennial state of lockdown where we can't do things because someone is too afraid of a vaccine? silly.
vaccinated people are NOT afraid of you, we just want to get back to normal life. why is that so hard to understand?
the more pertinent question is, why are YOU so afraid of a vaccine that is safe and effective. get your big boy pants on and get with the rest of society and don't be such a burden.
Should we be respectful of their choice to live or discriminate against them? Maybe capital punishment is appropriate?
07-30-2021, 11:55 AM
#270
Burning Brakes
Just reading some of the posts here is amazing ! Cognitive dissonance and mass hysteria have taken over! The most amazing part of all of this is that history is never kind to those that oppress and force others.
When there is no risk in society of any kind there is no freedom and no society can be built on denial of individual freedom.
Worthwhile quote: The oppressor would not be so strong if he did not have accomplices among the oppressed.
When there is no risk in society of any kind there is no freedom and no society can be built on denial of individual freedom.
Worthwhile quote: The oppressor would not be so strong if he did not have accomplices among the oppressed.
Individual freedoms in society are secondary to the well-being of said society as a whole. The latter always trumps the former. Without putting the needs of the society first, you have barbarism.
Last edited by 928gt; 07-30-2021 at 11:57 AM. Reason: sp